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Unread 19-06-2006, 08:09
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IRI Info/Rule Changes

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth Ritchie
Rule changes at IRI:

1. There will be no muzzle velocity ball speed limit. Rule S02 under
Aim High's Game Rules section 4.3.1. is voided for IRI. Fire at will!
Keep in mind that the 120 pound weight limit is still in effect. Scales
will be available, please don't make us use them. If a team modifies
their robot enough to make other teams wonder if they are over the
weight limit, we will check their robot weight. Consider your GP as you
make any robot mods.

We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized:

a. We will be replacing the DQ for 1 point goal incursion with a
penalty. The level of severity for this penalty is to be determined.
Our intent is to still discourage incursion, but to not have DQ's for
this action. We are re-wording rule G21 to make this clear.
b. We are considering the replacement of the serpentine draft with an
alternate method. Our intent is to either go back to 1-8, 1-8 or try
another method for 2nd round selection. First round selection will
definitely be 1-8. Once this is finalized, an update will be sent.

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Dang - We just dialed the 1213 PID in to 11.9 +- 0.3 MPS :-/

Otherwise, great changes. The incursion DQ should have been dropped after automatic scoring considerations became moot.

As for (b): I'd like to see elimination matches where the seeded teams weren't able to select each other. I think good scouting would come into play and the outcome would be less predictable.

Also, in the "other rule modifications" area, mere contact outside the bumper zone should not be penalized (as was threatened at the Champs). The penalty should be reserved for HITTING with force, otherwise it takes away some pretty neat, yet benign, ball catching contraptions.

Jack
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Unread 19-06-2006, 18:24
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

Thanks for posting this Jack, somehow I didn't get it!

Interesting rule change with the velocity... I wonder how many teams will be able to realistically change that, how many made it so that the speed can be upped. I'm guessing that the speed was engineered into a lot of machines, it will be interesting to see who can step it up!

As to the serpentine, I was half expecting that... I don't think that was most peoples' favorite rule change this year. I am anxious to see what the new fashion will be!
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?
I'll make sure the cards get packed...if we can find them...if we can't I will make Andy some new ones.
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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I'll make sure the cards get packed...if we can find them...if we can't I will make Andy some new ones.
I have one of them from last year, Andy signed it and gave it to me after DQ'ing 269 twice, losing 2 matches for us

Conflicts aside, I really do love this system, it is a great addition to FIRST gameplay.
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?
There are still some details to be determined.
"We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized"


But, regardless, we'll make sure to watch 269 verrrrrry closely.
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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There are still some details to be determined.
"We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized"

Is it soup yet?
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

will there be a speed limit for IRI dodgeball? aka how hard can i trow the ball at arefin's chest?
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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will there be a speed limit for IRI dodgeball? aka how hard can i trow the ball at arefin's chest?
I think this should be a new rule - As long as the ball is being thrown at Arefin, no speed limit is required
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

One thing to remember...more velocity does not always equal more gooder! How many times have you seen a hard flying ball bounce right off the chains and out. Keep that in mind!

We leave in two days, I can't wait for my first IRI experience!
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Re: IRI Info/Rule Changes

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I think this should be a new rule - As long as the ball is being thrown at Arefin, no speed limit is required
Not even a minimum speed?
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Not even a minimum speed?
who thinks 20 fps? is that a reasonable speed? or still too slow?
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who thinks 20 fps? is that a reasonable speed? or still too slow?
Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.
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Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.
im talkin that arefin dodgeball rule. anyways we have a corner bot so we dont need to worry bout shootin speeds
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Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.
Read the whole thread, Kyle He was referring to throws at Arefin only
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