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View Poll Results: Is it OK to break rules if you are not caught?
Students - Yep, who cares if no one knows 5 4.90%
Students - It's OK if I feel that I am being picked on 9 8.82%
Students - No as FIRSTers we should never break rules 25 24.51%
College Students - Yep, who cares if no one knows 1 0.98%
College Students - It's OK if I feel that I am being picked on 6 5.88%
College Students - No as FIRSTers we should never break rules 12 11.76%
Mentors - Yep, who cares if no one knows 2 1.96%
Mentors - It's OK if I feel that I am being picked on 1 0.98%
Mentors - No as FIRSTers we should never break rules 27 26.47%
It's none of your buisiness how we decide to follow/not follow rules 14 13.73%
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Re: Poll - Legalities

Rules/laws are contracts between those in authority and those under control. They are created to make life more predictable. Nothing more, nothing less.

Explination:
Following them is a choice, if you "break the rules" on something, just know that you had better be careful because if something goes wrong you are fully responsible for the consiquences if something goes wrong. Breaking rules not wrong, but very foolish in many cases. When you work "outside the rules" you are pretty much putting yourself into the hands of whatever authority figure happens to be in charge, and whatever they are feeling at the moment.

Before they came up with the ideas of laws, rulers did whatever they wanted, and people did whatever they wanted. If the people crossed the rulers or his wishes, they were subject to whatever he felt like doing. This generally worked out ok, except for the cases in which people were put to death because they annoyed the rulers.

When you break rules, you are reverting to a more primitave system of control. In some situations this is fine, many don't care, in others this can be very dangerous. The degree in which you break the rules will also entail the degree of the freedom those dealing with you have in assigning the consiquences. When you are working outside the rules, punishment can also be outside the rules.

Some rules are meant to be broken, just today you've probibly violated a few dozen obscure laws and regulations written down somewhere. (Like Hachiban VIII was saying about a law about annoying lizzards in a park). And all that means is that you are leaving more of your personal freedom in the hands and feelings of those that created those laws. In most cases, they just don't care. But if there is some city cop who is hell-bent on avenging those annoyed lizzards, be careful because he's got the full weight of the law behind him.

Morality:
As for the moral comparisons with breaking rules against murder and such. Those go along a similar thread, but you've got to establish a lot of things with morality and such before you can discuss that. Morality is inexplicably tied in with religion and discussions of God, and is difficult to discuss without going there. It is a very important part of this arguement. But is a very very long post, which I'm not sure I'd like to delve into.

Your guy's choice whether or not to take the thread in that direction.

Conclusion:
Rules/laws are merely contracts between those under control and those in authority. Breaking those rules/laws, places you into a more primative system of emotions and whims of those in control. Which can be ok, but can also be very foolish.


Following the rules is a choice, not a moral obligation.




BTW: Within the context of FIRST, games are only fun so long as everyone follows the rules, so I fully advocate for the full enforcement of clearly written rules to the tiniest detail. Within the context of venue rules and choices, (no internet???!!!), I don't have nearly the same respect for arbitrary regulations.
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