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View Poll Results: Who do you know Team 66 better as?
The Flyers (as the name currently stands) 52 56.52%
The Penguins (as the name once was until AFTER we won the national championship in 2002) 40 43.48%
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Re: Who do you know Team 66 better as???

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Originally Posted by Not2B
You are from Willow Run High School....

A B-24 is your best bet. I mean, we all (in South East Michigan who are interested in planes more than cars) know when the Yankee Lady (Which is a B-17, I know) or the Yankee Warrior (which is a B-25, I know) flies by.

Over 8700 B-24 were made there in WWII. They say that at one point willow run was making 1 B-24 a minute.

Of course, I may think this way because my high school mascot (in Ohio) was the Kenston Bombers, because the school was used to train the bomber crews during WWII.
I agree... the B-24 is already featured on our official logo.
But since the change to the Flyers name, we have not had an official mascot, and I don't think a plane can be a mascot, nor do I really know what would constitute as a flyer (besides an eagle, but that's a bit lame. ..) With no real mascot, the spirit on our team has been lacking in recent years. Certainly externally at competitions you can hear us screaming the "who's house, run's house" chant and other loud spirit cheers, but internally, there is still a huge debate (some would like to debate the actual size of this debate, but I'll leave it at huge) going on whether or not we should incorporate the penguin somehow.

That said, the penguin is still alive on the team. Quite frankly I still clearly remember the day I recieved the phone call that Team 66 won Nationals (I was in 7th grade) as penguins, andI was cooking grilled cheese for myself back at home.

Then the conversation at the heritage festival really got me interested in doing some 'research.' Someone in the break room still has a new penguin logo sitting on his computer, and I am waiting for it to arrive in my e-mail. I also asked if he could dress the penguin up in goggles and the cap pilots always wore back in the days of WWI. Another person also mentioned how confused everyone got, especially here on CD, when we changed names.

So my initial thought was this:

Our name should remain the Flyers.
The logo should remain the same with the B-24 and big 66.
But who's going to pilot the B-24? Penguins wearing WWI air force equipment (old school football style helmet and goggles), thus a mascot.

This way, we not only keep the history of Willow Run in our name and logo, but we also keep the history of the Team remembered as well, for it was the Penguins that put Team 66 on the FIRST map. Not to mention our team will be recognizable by the other half of FIRSTers who still remember us as the Penguins.

a cautious 2 cents

-Joe

edit: now I still have to talk to my team, and then the school about this... so its nothing set in stone just yet...
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