Best Alliance in the Alliance Era of FIRST

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by Corey Balint

I was having a discussion with Tom today and we started talking about....

I'm guessing a lot of threads by either Corey or Tom will be started this way seeing as they are room mates now..

Brandon.. I think we need another sub forum.
Car Talk on NPR has Click and Clack, we have Cor Cor and Tom Tom.

[JackN]

OK here is my top 10 that I can think of,

1. Winning Alliance 2003 Championship-OK this is going to sound weird but I think this was the greatest assembly of teams ever in one alliance. It had two of the top five teams in FIRST history (469 and 111) and another great team (65).
2. Finalist alliance WMR 2005-This is more obscure but look at how silly this alliance is, number 3 seed on Archimedes (27), the number 2nd pick on Curie (33), and the number 1 seed on Archimedes (245).
3. Any Triplet alliance 2006-Some very good alliances, especially the GLR one with 67. That is a pretty cool alliance. Really what else is there to say.
4. Winning Alliance WIS 2006-111 and 1625 were a dominating combo. They steamrolled everyone in their path. 1816 did an excellent defensive job.
5. Winning Alliance WMR 2006- Another one of those super alliances, all three teams (70,451,503) in this alliance finished in the top 8 on Curie this year.
6.Finalist Alliance 2003 Championship 343,25,494 another great collection of teams
7.Winning Alliance 2005 Championship 330,67,503-Scored most points that season.
8.Tie Every alliance at 2006 IRI, Winning Alliance 2006 Championship,Finalist Alliance 2006 Championship-All the IRI alliances would have had a shot to have won the championship, Those other two are both great as well.
Honorable Mention-1999 MWR Champions(Excluded because of being too good), #4 Newton alliance 2006 (71,254, and 753) (Another unbelievable collection of teams), Walled Lake Monster 2001 IRI Winning Alliance (308, 111 and others Karthik help please )

[BBnum3]

Originally Posted by 1derboy

4. Winning Alliance WIS 2006-111 and 1625 were a dominating combo. They steamrolled everyone in their path. 1816 did an excellent defensive job.

Like you pointed out in other alliances, this alliance did extremely well at the Championship. 1625 was the #1 seed in Galileo, 111 was the #8 seed and number one pick in Newton, and we were the #6 seed in Archimedes.

It's hard for me to say what the best alliance ever was, since I've only been around FIRST for less than a year, but both alliances from that unbelievable IRI match were great, and the 2006 winner of Newton was probably the most balanced alliance I've ever seen.

[Lil' Lavery]

You can't really rank alliances from year to year (cus of different games), so here's a bunch of amazing alliances that I know of.
2000, MWR. 111, 47, 45

2001, Nats 71, 294, 125, 365, 279
While I didn't see most of that alliance in person, I did see 365 win Philly that year. And to think that a bot that good could be the 4th team on that alliance....

2003, CMP. 111, 469, 65

2006, CMP. 25, 968, 195
Even though they didn't win the Championship, through-out the event they functioned better than any alliance I have witnessed. Between the "A-Bomb", 968 standing 195 back up, 25 preventing 968 from tipping over, sacrificing autonomous to beat the Galileo alliance, and all the other amazing strategies/plays, they impressed me a way no other alliance ever had....until IRI

2006, IRI. 71, 1625, 910
Teams they beat to win IRI included, 494, 25, 1114, 33, 217, and 233 (8 Regional Champs in 2006 between those 6 teams). 137-133. They executed well, and they adapted even better.

2004, VCU. 33, 977, 388
They pushed the limits of their machines so far it was amazing. In F3, 33, which wasn't meant to climb up the stairs, did so, to help secure the bar for 977, giving their alliance the Regional Championship.

[Cory]

They didn't even make it out of the QF's at nationals in 2004 due to freakishly horrible luck, but 60, 33, and 1241 was one scary alliance. As soon as alliance pairings were announced, most people practically expected them to win it all.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Cory

They didn't even make it out of the QF's at nationals in 2004 due to freakishly horrible luck, but 60, 33, and 1241 was one scary alliance. As soon as alliance pairings were announced, most people practically expected them to win it all.

After seeing 33 in person (and losing to them, do to our own bit of bad luck ) in VCU, I always wondered what happened to them at Championship, and why they didn't even make Einstein. Anyone care to explain what happened?

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

After seeing 33 in person (and losing to them, do to our own bit of bad luck ) in VCU, I always wondered what happened to them at Championship, and why they didn't even make Einstein. Anyone care to explain what happened?

Or even better than explain what happened. Post a video.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

After seeing 33 in person (and losing to them, do to our own bit of bad luck ) in VCU, I always wondered what happened to them at Championship, and why they didn't even make Einstein. Anyone care to explain what happened?

Team 33, 233, and 1902 lost to 296, 217, and 522 in the finals of Archimedes. Not bad to lost to the national champions, I guess..

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

Team 33, 233, and 1902 lost to 296, 217, and 522 in the finals of Archimedes. Not bad to lost to the national champions, I guess..

I was talking about in 2004...
Although 33 did make another great bot in '06

[ScoutingNerd175]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I was talking about in 2004...
Although 33 did make another great bot in '06

And 2005 when they actually did make it to Einstein.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

After seeing 33 in person (and losing to them, do to our own bit of bad luck ) in VCU, I always wondered what happened to them at Championship, and why they didn't even make Einstein. Anyone care to explain what happened?

60 popped two big balls in one match, IIRC. They had the match in the bag, however 1241 was protecting their capped stationary goal from being decapped, but didn't lift their arm up at the end of the match--they were then touching the ball, and lost the match since they lost the 2x multiplier.

60 had a whole string of horrible luck in 2004, with that, and what they claimed to be radio problems at regionals.

[Dan Petrovic]

What about 79, 469, and 222 from Curie in 2006?

As far as I know, they hold this year's highest score.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by InfernoX14

What about 79, 469, and 222 from Curie in 2006?

As far as I know, they hold this year's highest score.

25, 1114, and 33 should have broken that record in QF1-1 at IRI, but due to a field malfunction, the match was ended early. The SimRaiderBees put up something like 81 points in autonomous that match, and had scored around 150 by the time the match was ended. If it allowed to continue, they would have certainly been at or above 200 points.

[Ryan Foley]

Here's one no one has mentioned yet.

2001:
71, 111, 234, 269, 112. They had the record high that year of 710 points. Each robot on that alliance had a specific purpose, which all of them did amazingly well. There's a video of the 710 match floating around somewhere. I believe it was at the Midwest regional.

EDIT: see Billfred's post for the link to video

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Ryan Foley

There's a video of the 710 match floating around somewhere. I believe it was at the Midwest regional.

Hooray for the Google Video!