Go to Post There's nothing like getting your butt kicked by the best! :D - Jared Russell [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Team Organization > College Teams
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 09:55
santosh's Avatar
santosh santosh is offline
Registered User
AKA: 2415
FRC #2415
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: The world
Posts: 796
santosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to santosh
College Apps and FIRST

Hi, I am applying for Emory University this year and they ask for a personal statement. One of the things I want to talk about is my involvement in FIRST robotics and its effect on the community. Does anyone have any pointers about how to go about doing this. I am having a hard time doing this since I feel the need to lay a back drop story on what FIRST and all of that kind of stuff.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
__________________
2004 - 2007 = 1002
2007 - 2011 = Founding Mentor of 2415
6 regional wins, 3 EIs, 3 Chairmans
kiddies kiddies kiddies

Last edited by santosh : 19-09-2006 at 19:51.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 10:11
Richard Wallace's Avatar
Richard Wallace Richard Wallace is online now
I live for the details.
FRC #3620 (Average Joes)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Southwestern Michigan
Posts: 3,665
Richard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond repute
Re: College Apps and FIRST

Emory is a great school, in a great city.

You might also want to consider Georgia Tech -- but I'm showing my alumni bias ... back to topic.

I think one of your best sources to draw on for college app material would be found in three consecutive Peachtree Regional winning CA submissions.
__________________
Richard Wallace

Mentor since 2011 for FRC 3620 Average Joes (St. Joseph, Michigan)
Mentor 2002-10 for FRC 931 Perpetual Chaos (St. Louis, Missouri)
since 2003

I believe in intuition and inspiration. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.
(Cosmic Religion : With Other Opinions and Aphorisms (1931) by Albert Einstein, p. 97)
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 10:13
KenWittlief KenWittlief is offline
.
no team
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 4,213
KenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond repute
Re: College Apps and FIRST

is this a format they asked you to follow, or something you came up with on your own?

When my daughter applied for the FIRST scholarship at NorthEastern they asked her to write a short essay about herself and her involvement in FIRST.

She wrote mainly about two things, how her involvement in the team grew over the 3 years that she was a member, and an interaction she had with a young girl who was a spectator at an exposition match during her last year. My daughter was the team driver during her last year, and when the young girl (~12) realized a girl was controlling the robot she suddenly became very interested.

My daughter did not get the official FIRST scholarship from NE, but they offered her a full scholarship anyway.

I would say to keep your essay on a personal level. Talk about yourself, how you have changed and grown. People who are evaluating candidates are interested in 4 things:

Situation: what was the situation you were in. Was it a big successful team, or a small floundering team, well established or rookie, big corporate sponsor or meeting in someones garage....

Task: what was your task on the team? what things were you personally responsible for

Approach: What was your approach? did you wing it by the seat of your pants, did you look to mentors for guidance? Did you follow a process or make things up as you went along?

Results: what was the result of your involvement? Did things go as planned? did your team go down in flames? was it a positive experience for the people involved? Did you see peoples lives changed or altered as a result of the efforts of the team?

These four things are easy to remember: interviewers are looking for a STAR to be a part of their organization (university student body, clubs, teams, employees....)

For the community services part of this, if you can tell how your involvement on the team directly benefitted specific individuals your essay will have far more impact than general statments like: we showed the robot to 3rd graders on science day, or we were in a parade....

also, keep in mind that talking about yourself is not egotistical in this case, because you were part of the community, and FIRST reached out to you and altered your life. That is the experience you are most qualified to talk about.

Last edited by KenWittlief : 19-09-2006 at 10:16.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 10:17
Liz Smith's Avatar
Liz Smith Liz Smith is offline
believes in robots
AKA: Pika1579
FRC #3940
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 386
Liz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Liz Smith
Re: College Apps and FIRST

The person who reads your personal statement will have either heard of FIRST or, they haven't (and Emory being a school in Atlanta... hopefully they have). Either way, I think they are looking for more about your experience with the program, rather than a complete background of FIRST. I would keep the background information to a minimum and make sure you focus on how it affected you.
__________________
Alumna of 555 Mentor of 3940
Volunteering since 2004: Say hi to me at events!
Applications Engineer
AndyMark, Inc.

Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 12:43
Cynette Cynette is offline
Worry is a poor use of Imagination
AKA: Cynette Cavaliere
FRC #1511 (Rolling Thunder)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Penfield,NY
Posts: 1,515
Cynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond reputeCynette has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to Cynette Send a message via AIM to Cynette
Re: College Apps and FIRST

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pika1579
Either way, I think they are looking for more about your experience with the program, rather than a complete background of FIRST. I would keep the background information to a minimum...
I agree that you do not need to give up much of your precious essay space for the background on FIRST, you can just give a reference to the USFIRST web site if it would make you feel more comfortable that you have provided a reference point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pika1579
...and make sure you focus on how it affected you.
And on how you used FIRST to impact others. Colleges want students who are there to give as well as take, so it is good to show that whatever experiences FIRST gave to you, you used them to give to others.

Most importantly, let YOU shine through in the essay! Not all colleges are looking only for Stars, most are looking for students who can add something to the student body. "Diamonds in the Rough" are high in demand also!
__________________
Cynette
The best angle from which to approach any problem is the TRYangle
--Chinese Fortune Cookie
Rolling Thunder, Team 1511: The Thunder just keeps getting louder!

Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 13:03
JaneYoung JaneYoung is offline
Onward through the fog.
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Austin, TX USA
Posts: 5,996
JaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond repute
Re: College Apps and FIRST

To add to what has been wisely suggested, you might give some thought to conveying that your experience with FIRST will continue to impact your life as you grow into adulthood. Possibly in areas of major, career choice(s), mentoring, teamwork, project management.
Good luck during this stressful but wonderful time of your life.
Jane
__________________
Excellence is contagious. ~ Andy Baker, President, AndyMark, Inc. and Woodie Flowers Award 2003

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved.
~ Helen Keller
(1880-1968)
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 19:33
santosh's Avatar
santosh santosh is offline
Registered User
AKA: 2415
FRC #2415
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: The world
Posts: 796
santosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond reputesantosh has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to santosh
Re: College Apps and FIRST

Thank you all for your help. I knew I came to the right place. I think this has cleared up most of my confusion on how to do this. Thanks. Any other help would be appreciated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
You might also want to consider Georgia Tech -- but I'm showing my alumni bias ... back to topic.
Trust me, I am torn lol. Out of our past 3 years, I would say that we have graduated about 60 seniors. Only 5 have NOT gone to Georgia Tech. Not to mention that Tech is my home for 6 precious weeks out of the year.

I am not sure that Emory knows about FIRST robotics. And also my problem is consolidating this into possibly a half page essay. I may be able to write it as my 3 page essay.

My mentor was thinking about having me prepare a little page long summary of what FIRST is and how students who participate in it show most of the qualities that colleges are looking for and then have me put it out there for anyone to tag along with their appliations. What do you all think?
__________________
2004 - 2007 = 1002
2007 - 2011 = Founding Mentor of 2415
6 regional wins, 3 EIs, 3 Chairmans
kiddies kiddies kiddies
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 19:55
KenWittlief KenWittlief is offline
.
no team
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 4,213
KenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond reputeKenWittlief has a reputation beyond repute
Re: College Apps and FIRST

Generalizations about FIRST and its impact on students are great, but you must keep in mind, you are applying for admission to a University - they want to know about you!
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-09-2006, 20:06
JaneYoung JaneYoung is offline
Onward through the fog.
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Austin, TX USA
Posts: 5,996
JaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond repute
Re: College Apps and FIRST

This is my opinion only - I'm sure others will chime in as well -
1. I think you can condense what you need to say in 1/2 page.
I had an English teacher in highschool that made me write, then write, then write again. By the 3rd draft, all the extra was out. That might be a good approach to the 1/2 page. What do you want your reader to know about you?

2. Your mentor's suggestion is a good one. A white paper developed by you would be awesome. Before submitting, send it out in draft form and final form to 2 or 3 people via PM or email and get them to critique and look for errors. Fresh eyes are always good. Don't be intimidated, ask.

3. When making decisions, trust your self. Nothing is set in stone. Cover all your bases, seeking advice as you need it, and when the time comes, make your decision. You are prepared.
__________________
Excellence is contagious. ~ Andy Baker, President, AndyMark, Inc. and Woodie Flowers Award 2003

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved.
~ Helen Keller
(1880-1968)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Example LabVIEW Apps - Dashboard, CMUcam2 and Motors DanDon LabView and Data Acquisition 3 29-01-2009 22:13
Example LabVIEW Apps - Dashboard, CMUcam2 and Motors Russ Beavis National Instruments LabVIEW and Data Acquisition 9 21-01-2007 17:19
Other scouting apps? buss Scouting 2 13-03-2006 13:13
Password to labview apps AUWarEagle#1 National Instruments LabVIEW and Data Acquisition 1 14-01-2006 00:45
Looking for FIRST and/or vex leagues for college students in chicago Jkanter General Forum 3 19-08-2005 02:00


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi