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Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

Karthik and I were having a discussion over which sponsor fields the most succussful teams perennially. It basically came down to 4 major sponsors with real claims for it.
GM: 65, 66, 67, 68, 1114, 1503 (70 and 494 are also sponsored by Chrysler, so we decided to leave them out)

NASA (only "NASA Base" teams, including all NASA grant teams would be unfair): 116, 118, 122, 233, 254, 330, 364, 368

Delphi: 45, 47, 48, 703, 868

UTC: 173-180


Which do you think can field the strongest line up?

Note: I said "most successful" not "best" for those of you who don't like to label FIRST teams as the "best".
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

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Karthik and I were having a discussion over which sponsor fields the most succussful teams perennially. It basically came down to 4 major sponsors with real claims for it.
GM: 65, 66, 67, 68, 1114, 1503 (70 and 494 are also sponsored by Chrysler, so we decided to leave them out)

NASA (only "NASA Base" teams, including all NASA grant teams would be unfair): 116, 118, 122, 233, 254, 330, 346, 348

Delphi: 45, 47, 48, 703, 868

UTC: 173-180
Depends on your defination of success in FIRST.
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

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Depends on your defination of success in FIRST.
Each of those sponsors has a FIRST hall of fame team and a Champion team. So both success with the on the field robot, and reaching out and making a difference are represented.
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

Don't forget 64 under GM teams.
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

Rolls-Royce has had some pretty successful teams. Most of them may not be so nationally known or are a "big name teams", but their stats speak for themselves. (This is just purely based on wins/awards.)


(note: Rolls-Royce currently sponsors 8 teams within the Indianapolis metro area, with a possibility of some more for 2007)


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Awards Won:
2006 CMP KPC&B Entrepreunership
2006 MI Website Award
2006 AZ Imagery
2006 AZ KPC&B Entrepreunership
2006 AZ Website Award
2006 AZ Woodie Flowers Regional Award (Chris Fultz)
2005 FL Woodie Flowers Regional Award (Scott Ritchie)
2005 FL KPC&B Entrepreunership
2005 IN J&J Sportsmanship
2004 AZ KPC&B Entrepreunership
2004 IL Regional Chairman's Award
2004 AZ Website Design Award
2003 AZ Regional Chairman's Award
2003 AZ Website Design Award
2003 VA Website Design Award
2001 FL Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
2001 IL Judge's Award
2001 IL Regional Champion
2001 NAT Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"

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2006 PIT GM Industrial Design
2006 PIT Regional Finalist
2005 SAC Regional Chairman's Award
2001 TX Xerox Creativity
2001 TX Finalist

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no info available

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2006 IN Autodesk Visualization Award
2006 IN GM Industrial Design
2006 PIT Xerox Creativity
2006 PIT Autodesk Visualization Award
2005 CMP Autodesk Rising Star Visualization Award
2005 MI Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
2005 IN KPC&B Entrepreunership
2004 CMP Championship Finalist
2004 CMP Champion - Galileo Division
2003 MO KPC&B Entrepreunership
2003 GA GM Industrial Design
2003 CMP GM Industrial Design

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Awards Won:
2006 OH Regional Finalist


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Awards Won:
2006 IN Imagery
2006 IN Motorola Quality
2005 IN Imagery
2005 IN Regional Champion
2005 MO RadioShack Innovation in Control Award
2004 MI Regional Champion
2004 MO Imagery
2003 MO Rookie All-Star

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no info available

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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

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Karthik and I were having a discussion over which sponsor fields the most succussful teams perennially. It basically came down to 4 major sponsors with real claims for it.
GM: 65, 66, 67, 68, 1114, 1503 (70 and 494 are also sponsored by Chrysler, so we decided to leave them out)

NASA (only "NASA Base" teams, including all NASA grant teams would be unfair): 116, 118, 122, 233, 254, 330, 346, 348

Delphi: 45, 47, 48, 703, 868

UTC: 173-180


Which do you think can field the strongest line up?

Note: I said "most successful" not "best" for those of you who don't like to label FIRST teams as the "best".
I would say that out of all the sponsors the most successful one would not be one of these large companies. I'm thinking more of a machining company from Indiana: Beatty Machine & Manufacturing.

I mean, who can argue with this list of "Success":

Awards Won:
2006 IL Regional Finalist
2006 IL Engineering Inspiration Award
2006 MO Regional Chairman's Award
2006 MO Regional Champion
2005 IL Website Award
2005 IL Motorola Quality
2005 IL Regional Champion
2005 IN GM Industrial Design
2005 IN Regional Champion
2004 CMP Championship Winner
2004 MI Woodie Flowers Regional Award
2004 MI Motorola Quality
2004 CMP Champion - Archimedes Division
2004 IL Engineering Inspiration Award
2003 MI Regional Finalist
2003 MI
2003 MI GM Industrial Design
2002 CMP Division Champion - Newton
2002 CMP Championship Winner
2002 IL Regional Champion
2002 IL Engineering Inspiration Award
2002 MI Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
2001 CMP #1 Seed - Newton Division
2001 IL Incredible Play of the Day
2001 IL #1 Seed
2001 IL Regional Champion
2001 MI2 GM Industrial Design
2001 MI2 Incredible Play of the Day
2001 MI2 #1 Seed
2001 MI2 Regional Champion
2001 NAT National Champions
2001 NAT Division Champion - Newton
2000 IL Xerox Creativity Award
1999 IL Regional Champion
1999 MI Regional Champion
1999 MI J&J Sportsmanship
1999 IL #1 Seed
1998 IL Xerox Creativity Award
1998 N1 Xerox Creativity Award
1997 IL Regional Champion
1997 IL #1 Seed
1997 N1 Honeywell Leadership in Control Award
1997 N1 Champions
1996 N1 #1 Seed



Do any of these sponsors have 4 National Championships? (I know the GM list has at least 3) I know you guys were talking more about the multi team sponsors, but when making a list of successful sponsors, Beatty has to be included.

If I were to pick from the lists you have there, I would have to say that the GM teams are the most consistently successful.

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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

I could be wrong – but didn’t they have the same kind of debates on episodes of Sienfield? I seem to remember how George and Elaine would compile a list of this or that based on their informed opinions. Then Jerry would mess them up by pointing out that it depends on how they define yada-yada. And then Kramer would try to form some metrics, but would soon end up so frustrated that he’d have to do a pratfall.

Didn’t ya just love the way they’d spend the whole show talking bout stuff, but never resolving anything?

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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

I don't think you can say anybody besides GM for this.

64 (now split to 39 and 11??): Three regional championships, two division championships, one Championship finalist, and the most awards in one season of any team in FIRST:
2005 CMP Championship Finalist
2005 CMP Champion - Galileo Division
2005 NV Imagery
2005 NV Motorola Quality
2005 NV Regional Champion
2005 NV Safety Award
2005 CO Autodesk Visualization Award
2005 CO GM Industrial Design
2005 CO Regional Finalist
2005 AZ Imagery
2005 AZ Website Award
2005 AZ Motorola Quality
2005 AZ Autodesk Visualization Award

65: Two Regional Chairman's Awards, one Chairman's Award Finalist, one Einstein championship, one Regional Champion, one Championship finalist, and four regional finalist. (And plenty of other hardware thrown in for good measure.)

66: One RCA, one Einstein championship, three Regional Championships, one division finalist, two regional finalists.

67: These folks need no introduction. Chairman's Award winners and world champions in the same year, a Woodie Flowers Award, three RCAs or Chairman's Award Finalists, one division championship (not counting the 2005 win), seven regional championships, and so many other awards that I have to scroll to see them all.

68: Two-time regional champion, four-time regional finalist, and plenty of technical awards.

1114: In just four years, they've won the Regional Chairman's Award, they're a five-time (five-time!) regional champion, a division finalist, two regional finalists, and quite a few technical awards, especially considering the challenge of trying to decide who to award the awards to in a collaborative setting.

1503: Two years into FIRST, and they're at or near the top of the field on some of the biggest stages in FIRST outside Atlanta:

2006 Greater Toronto Regional: Champion.
2006 Waterloo Regional: Champion.
2006 Great Lakes Regional: Champion.
2005 Greater Toronto Regional: Finalist.
2005 Waterloo Regional: Rookie Inspiration Award.

So, to sum things up:

One Chairman's Award
Three Einstein Championships
One Woodie Flowers Award
Four Division Championships that didn't result in an Einstein championship (plus one Championship Finalist in the pre-division era)
Seven Regional Chairman's Awards or Chairman's Award Finalists (which, by my understanding, is functionally similar)
TWENTY-FOUR Regional Championships

If that's not dominance, I don't know what is.
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

Granted, but let's look at the NASA teams:

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No Chairman's or Regional Championships to date
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5 (Consecutive) Regional AVAs, most of any team in FIRST

118:
2x Regional Champs
3x Regional Finalist
2002 Archimedes Champ
2x Regional CA
2005 CMP Chairman's honorable mention
1 WFFA
Numerous other awards

122:
3x Regional Champ
2x Regional FInalist
2001 Galileo Champ
2006 Newton Finalist
Numerous other awards

233:
4x Reginal Champ
4x Regional Finalist
2006 Archimedes Finalist
2002 Archimedes CHamp
2x Regional Chairman's
Numerous other awards

254:
12x (yes 12x) Regional Champ
Has won EVERY SINGLE SVR
2x Regional Finalist
2x Championship Finalist
2004 CMP Chairman's Award
2x Regional CA
Numerous other awards

330:
4x Regional Champ
4x Regional Finalist
2x Regional CA
2005 CMP Champs (Alliance Captain)
Numerous other awards

364:
2x Regional Champ
1x Regional Finalist
Numerous other awards

368:
1x Regional Champ
4x Regional Finalist
1x Regional CA
Numerous other awards

ONE Chairman's Award Winner
ONE Einstein Championship
FIVE Division Champions (not countin 330's 2005 CMP win)
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Not bad, but also note that NASA's got an extra team on their side (eight to GM's seven).
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I normally don't get involved in these types of discussions, but Motorola should be included in that list. They are a long time national sponsor, having had several teams over their many years of participation and continue to sponsor teams in Chicago, PA and Florida. Can't speak to Dillard's SigmaCat history (with any accuracy) but to Wildstang, we have placed high in the Championship by going to at least divisional finals for the past 11 years, winning in 2003 and being awarded the Chairman's in 2006. Sigmacats' SOAP is one of the longest and most successful scouting programs in this organization and they continue to provide archival video and match lists for all participants as well as fielding some incredible robots and robot innovations. All of this while continuing to support FLL in Illinois (I believe the largest registration on the planet) and backing the state FLL competition.

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11 is the Mount Olive Robotics Team (MORT) from Mount Olive, NJ and they've been around for ages. They've got nothing to do with 64.
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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

I think so far this thread is lost in deep weeds.

The most successful FIRST sponsor would be the one that put the most HS students into science and engineering programs at colleges and universities.

Four years from now a FIRST trophy will be worth about $12 on ebay. A four year engineering or science degree will have a life-time salary value starting around $2M, way more if you branch out and run your own business.

And the contributions to our society and the future of humanity are going to come from people with the best education and the best motivation.

Which sponsor has worked toward the goals of FIRST with the most success?

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Re: Which Sponsor has the Most Successful teams?

64 split into 39 and 1018.

NASA grants aside, who sponsors the most teams?
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