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View Poll Results: Student/Mentor programmer ratio, Student/Mentor programming knowledge
All student(s) 40 38.10%
Mostly student(s) 45 42.86%
Mostly mentor(s) 12 11.43%
All mentor(s) 6 5.71%
STUDENT EDU Self taught 42 40.00%
STUDENT EDU Highschool class 12 11.43%
MENTOR EDU Self taught 10 9.52%
MENTOR EDU Highschool class 1 0.95%
MENTOR EDU Higher Education 12 11.43%
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Unread 21-10-2006, 21:05
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Who does the programming for your team?

I'm curios about other teams programming team.

1. How many teams have students do the programming?
2. What level of programming education do the student have?
3. What level of programming education do the mentors have(if you have programming mentors)

My team has only one student programmer(ME) and no mentors.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 21:16
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

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I'm curios about other teams programming team.

1. How many teams have students do the programming?
2. What level of programming education do the student have?
3. What level of programming education do the mentors have(if you have programming mentors)

My team has only one student programmer(ME) and no mentors.
2005 team 1568 had one student programmer (me) I taught myself to program during the summer of '04.

2006 1568 had one student programmer (again me) and one college mentor, a chem engineering senior with experience in programming but not in C

2007 1568 has a few students, none with any experience and two mentors one is a parent who has some programming experience (I haven't met him yet so I don't know what exactly he has done) the other is a computer engineer from Raytheon.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 21:20
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

1540 has 5 this year and last year. Requirement is to go through one year of basic programming at our highscool or equivalent. Right now we have two students who learned on their own to get the requirement and three students who took the year. So everyone has at least one year in java or c++. Our mentor is our programming teacher who has a college degree etc.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 21:57
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

237 had one self-taught programmer (me) in 2005 and 2006.

2007 we have me again and another self-taught freshman.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

375 has one self-taught programmer, me.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 22:05
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

Team 25 currently has 2 student programmers. We were both taught by the previous programmer, Bharat, who is self-taught.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 22:09
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

I am the programmer on team 971. I taught my self. None of the adults on the team have any idea how the code works.
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Unread 21-10-2006, 22:30
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

Team 195 had 2 high school students with no mentors
Team 125 has 1 high school student with 3 college mentors.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

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I am the programmer on team 971. I taught my self. None of the adults on the team have any idea how the code works.
Correction: none of the mentors know how YOUR code works . We have a few mentors that are software engineers, but they mostly just let Austin do his thing.
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Unread 22-10-2006, 00:55
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

we have one student doing our programming, kiet. hes been doing for years, and has beed doing a great job. hes done our auto modes, jyro, PID loops, and who knows, maybe a little something for cal games. ;-)
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Unread 22-10-2006, 01:43
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

Last year our programming team had 9 programmers (with me as lead) and 2 programming mentors (one is a programming teacher at another school, the other is my Dad who is a software engineer). By the end of the season we had 5 programmers doing quite a bit and the others kind of helping.

This year looks to have 5 or 6 programmers and me leading again. I can say from last year's experience that having 9 programmers is a bad thing. We simply did not have enough tasks to hand out and supervise between them all since the skill level varied drastically and we really couldn't figure out what we wanted to do fast enough.

We don't require our programmers to have a certain level of programming education, but we tell them that if they haven't at least taken an Introduction Programming class that they will probably get left behind unless they're willing to do significant outside learning.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

for my team, we've had 2 1/2 brains do it (2 geniuses and another... meh), last year i learned from them, so this year i'm taking the place of the 1 1/2 that graduated. we've also got an EE helping us as a mentor, but he only helps debug, he never writes the code, but gently guides us.

most of us have taken java courses from the high school (and java is very much like C)
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

We now have 5 programmers, last year we had 3. They are all students and write all the code. But don't get me wrong, our software engineer mentors help a lot, especially in designing the code.
(Most people don't know this, as most of this mentoring happens at home. 3 of us have software engineer dad, 1 has a programmer brother, and I don't know about our 5th programmer.)

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Unread 22-10-2006, 10:02
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

This year it will be just me programming for our team. Hopefully I can get someone else to help since its not easy to be team captain and the only programmer.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

in the past, I used to do some coding for our team, being a programming teacher (though not of basic, so I had to learn that our rookie year and ended up coding it all).

I teach C++ and java, and since 2004, I've stepped back from actually coding, and have students doing the coding. We now have one mentor who helps with researching and new complex tasks that are new for our students (including using encoders, interrupt handling, and the CMU cam), but now the actual coding is mostly done by one student. This year, he is running in-team programming workshops and will be training some new ones for the future.

I, too, will continue to train more students once he's gone.
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