pc/mac

[jpyro]

And i use linux, the new one. Its 1337 855. Name an other os that your desktop is a cube and you can throw windows off your screen. Thats my second os. And dont forget the best part FREE

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by jpyro

And that will be the reason for hackers to start hacking macs, correct me hackers if im wrong. But windows is far more popular out in the world of computers

To answer your previous post, the OS gets the virus.

Second, and to this question, Windows has more of an installed base (this includes POS terminals, demo kiosks, and other things that don't really matter) than MacOSX (that doesn't promote itself that way).

[Joohoo]

i'm not a hacker but i do agree that the reason for all the windows viruses/malware is because of it's widespread use. This is a con to using windows but to each his own.

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by mannaman

I love the Mac vs. PC commercials on TV... has anyone seen those?

I hate those commercials. Even if I were a Mac user, I would still hate them - they don't even really show you the benefits of using a Mac and stereotype Windows users as nerdy spreadsheet guys. Worst marketing campaign ever Apple.

So here's my deal - I would love to own a Mac. I really would. However, they're just too expensive and that's the bottom line. I could easily build my own desktop that will do the same thing for half the cost. Thankfully, Macs are starting to come down in price, but until they really lower to a more competitive price level, I will not be investing in one.

I'm looking forward to the day when their OS comes standard with Boot Camp, or whatever it will be called then, because that will be awesome. Mac OS to do my photo and video, Windows OS to game. It will be great.

[Cody Carey]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I'm definately a hardcore Macintosh user. OSX is far superior to Windows, imho. Also, I've heard from the "Computer Illiterate" that it's easier to use (many claim OSX is harder to use, but that's because they were raised on Windows). And if you're really dying for your Windows applications, you can install Windows. But far more applications are also made for Macs (or are now starting to) than many people think.


I'd like to know your reasoning behind that. iMovie is both really easy to use, and can do a whole lot of nice video editing. And FinalCutPro is probably the best video editing program out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48jlm6QSU4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz1ar...related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwZkZ...related&search=

These commercials are very clearly propaganda... The first commercial is saying that mac is for fun, cool, skinny people, whereas PC is for old, fat, suit wearing types, who only do work. Don't mind that there are basically no mainstream games written for the mac.
The second one is saying that windows only comes with "non fun" programs, such as "calculator" or "clock"... and definitely nothing like itunes or imovie... because apparently windows media player and movie maker don't exist.

And the last one.
"Everything just kinda works with a mac"- Priceless.

All I'm saying is that I have both PCs and macs working in my house, and the PCs give me a whole lot fewer problems, and when they do give me problems, I can fix them. I'm sticking with PC.
Not that it matters, They'll probably meld into some sick combination of the two in a couple of years anyway,

[Cody Carey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpU4...related&search=
(Careful, there are two F-bombs, but they are in passing.)

Now that is a better Mac commercial

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Cody C

These commercials are very clearly propaganda... The first commercial is saying that mac is for fun, cool, skinny people, whereas PC is for old, fat, suit wearing types, who only do work.

Commercials....well....ARE PROPAGANDA.

Originally Posted by Cody C

Don't mind that there are basically no mainstream games written for the mac.

I suppose Unreal Tournament, World of Warcraft, the Sims, Call of Duty, Civilization, and Age of Empires don't count?

Originally Posted by Cody C

The second one is saying that windows only comes with "non fun" programs, such as "calculator" or "clock"... and definitely nothing like itunes or imovie... because apparently windows media player and movie maker don't exist.

Don't even try to argue that they are as effective or as easy to use as iTunes and iMovie.

[Cody Carey]

Ok, you win. Macs are clearly better.

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by Cody C

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpU4...related&search=
(Careful, there are two F-bombs, but they are in passing.)

Now that is a better Mac commercial

One of my alltime favorites. The first time I watched it, I was like "geez, was this guy standing behind me watching when I was using a Mac?"

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Cody C

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnpU4...related&search=
(Careful, there are two F-bombs, but they are in passing.)

Now that is a better Mac commercial

The funny part is that, that's the EXACT same thing that many Mac users say about PCs. Any times anyone expresses that view, all it does is express ignorance. As someone raised on Macs, I found the same thing with PCs for a while (until I was forced to use them at school). I still prefer using OSX, but I can use Windows as well. If you try it in reverse, it works just as well...
Additionally, some things (namely the click and drag) just arn't true in that commercial.

[Cody Carey]

Come on, Commercials ARE propaganda.. It doesn't have to be true, right?

[jpyro]

I agree, thats why im building my own. i can put intels new dual core, three barracudas, two raptors, dual graphics cards, and all the other top of the line stuff for the same price as an apple. Now what would you do???

[Adam Y.]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Agreed, although two things should factor into the software argument:
b) You can run Windows if you're dying to do it. (But with OS X on there, why would you?)

99.99999% of the software you need to use to build a robot needs to be either run in Windows or Linux. Linux is not so much a problem but Windows is. Best Mac commercial ever.
Player vs Player

[[527]phil]

It also depends on what games you like to play, some don't run on linux or mac's. I actually just bought a dell inspiron notebook the other day, and am planning on converting my craptop into a dedicated linux box (ubuntu FTW). Personally I like windows mainly becuase certain things in linux confuse the hell out of me, but then again I like linux becuase thers more control(and it's free ). Plus dell is offering a FREE vista upgrade.

[artdutra04]

Even though I don't own any Macs at the moment, my next computer will most likely be a Mac Mini. For $1100, I can get a Mac Mini and a large Dell LCD monitor and do more with it straight out of the box than I ever could with my Windows machine (which cost the same) straight out of the box. After spending hundreds to get Macromedia Studio MX, Pinnacle Studio Plus, and a host of other applications, my dual processor 3GHz P4 computer could finally do something that Macs could do right out of the box.

And with the latest Macs being able to run Mac and Windows, I don't think I'd ever buy a Windows-only computer again. The tons of amazing software that comes with a Mac are definitely worth the extra cost.

Besides, I think some healthy competition for Microsoft would do them and the consumer good, as it would actually force them to create better software. When you control 97% of the market, what incentive is there to create software that makes people say "Wow!"? If those numbers were to jump to even 80% MS, 15% Apple, and 5% other, now Microsoft would actually have to create better products to keep from losing more market share. Just look what Mozilla Firefox did to light a fire under Microsoft to get them to improve Internet Explorer.


In case anyone every really wondered, Team 228 is a Mac team. Our Mac to PC ratio of computers owned by the team is 4:1.