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View Poll Results: Student/Mentor programmer ratio, Student/Mentor programming knowledge
All student(s) 40 38.10%
Mostly student(s) 45 42.86%
Mostly mentor(s) 12 11.43%
All mentor(s) 6 5.71%
STUDENT EDU Self taught 42 40.00%
STUDENT EDU Highschool class 12 11.43%
MENTOR EDU Self taught 10 9.52%
MENTOR EDU Highschool class 1 0.95%
MENTOR EDU Higher Education 12 11.43%
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Unread 24-10-2006, 22:37
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

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I'm curios about other teams programming team.

1. How many teams have students do the programming?
2. What level of programming education do the student have?
3. What level of programming education do the mentors have(if you have programming mentors)

My team has only one student programmer(ME) and no mentors.
Rookie year, our team had two programmers and both were self taught basically. Last season we had five programmers but one attempted, two did actual work, one went into building, and one went into operating our CNC Laser. This year, offically as of now, there are two programmers, one amature(me) and one who believes anything's possible with a laptop. We had two mentors every year who helped us with programming. Except this season, we will only have one mentor because our two mentors have new lives, only the new mentor we're recieving doesn't program in any type of code so, it's just up to Jonathan this year pretty much. Stole him off of team 604, lol, okay, he moved from California to Colorado and was in search of a new FIRST team and we invited him to come join ours.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

1141, 2003 - Just me (as student)
1141, 2004 - Me teaching 1 student - almost entirely student
1281, 2006 - Most drive code done by 3 students, and any touchups at a competition done by me.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

Our team has 2 student programmers and 2 mentors, and there great. We learn a ton.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

While I would love for our team to have students do all of the programming, I've had trouble finding students interested in do it. In my 3 years with 1437, last year was the first time I had a student with interest, but she had no previous experience and didn't join the team until January, so while we discussed the theory and concepts together, I did the programming.

This year I'm with 2014, and it appears I'll have the same problem. I've tried making announcements and having the other students recommend people for me to talk to, but nobody seems to know anyone with any programming skills.

This year will be even harder for me, since in the past I've had 2 other teachers working with the team so I could spend some of my time during the build on coding. This year I'm the only adult there (unless I can get a few more interested), so I will be responsible for overseeing all of the construction, and not just a portion as in previous years. Oh well--I guess that's what late nights and caffine are for.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

Last year 228 had two student programmers and one adult mentor/electrical engineer who worked on the code for our robot. The majority of the work was done by one of the students, who is now an alumni and continues to help our team. This year, I am not sure of the exact numbers, but we have at least as many programmers, as well as a new computer science teacher that's involved with our team.

Although I generally don't do much C programming for our FRC robot, I do all the PHP/MySQL/XHTML/CSS programming for 228's website. I'm self taught all four of those languages. I also do a lot of programming in EasyC for various projects.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

We usually have a few people in programming every year but most of them usually go to other parts of the team within the first week. Seems to always end up with 2 people doing the programming every year.

Last year there we me who was self taught and the team leader who was taught by the former team leader.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

I was unanimously voted head-programmer at a meeting I did not attend, and therefore had no choice in the matter. Besides me, there are two other students (both new at C)trying to learn up on it before the season starts.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

I'm curios about other teams programming team.

1. How many teams have students do the programming?
Our team is always purely student programmed.
2. What level of programming education do the student have?
The students usually have whatever training they can muster in the 4 years of being on the team.
3. What level of programming education do the mentors have(if you have programming mentors)
We also have no programming mentors.

My team has only one student programmer(ME) and no mentors.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

On SPAM, we lump together controls hardware and software + the layout and construction of the OI into one sub-team. Programming is one part of that. My goal is to let as many students, as possible, be a part of Software and Controls. I typically have 6-8 students that are interested and 1 or 2 that have had the chance to learn any programming language. I'm an Aerospace Engineer by training with FORTRAN,C and C++ thrown in the mix over the years. I always tell the students, that all they need is a willingness to try. The rest will come with persistence and practice. Last year, I had the luxury of working with a senior (Josh G.) who completely took over the programming and configuration management of the software. It allowed me more time to work with the students that had no experience. Now this year I'm counting on them.
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Re: Who does the programming for your team?

1. How many teams have students do the programming?
There's just me and another girl who's new to C. We used to have one more, but she left the school near the end of build season last year. =(

2. What level of programming education do the student have?
Err...just enough to get by.

3. What level of programming education do the mentors have(if you have programming mentors)
We have one programming mentor. He knows more than us, but he's not exactly a C guru...though, rumor has it that we may get some new mentors with the sudden influx of new members joining this year. Yay!
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