No More Teasers in 2007?

[Dan Richardson]

I'm going to have to agree with Beth, if the load is too hefty, add more moderators. There are 1000+ teams, even if teams limited to only a few teasers through out the whole season, thats still thousands pics. I understand its a tough load, but maybe you need to make a picture specific moderation group who just concentrate on pictures and their discusion.

I guess with the volume increase in years, traffic limitations may be needed and logical, but then again thats one of the biggest reasons I frequent Delphi during build season.

[Barry Bonzack]

I am in full agreement with Madison on this one. Although many enjoy trying to make people "guess" what great thing their team has done, I have trouble seeing how that adds to the colaboration of teams which is what CD is most used for. Why make everyone wait until the regional? Anyone not at the regional won't get to see it. If a team posts a full picture of their robot, drivetrain, arm, or mechanism in the 4th week how many other teams are going to completely ditch their own designs and copy what they saw in a picture? Very few.

I prefer spoilers to teasers. I make a point to check out the robot or part with my own eyes in the team's pit or in a match. I would be unaware of that team if they did not post a spoiler in advance. I give little credit to teasers.

[Travis Covington]

I don't know about you, but rarely do we have any mechanism completed by week 4. Would you prefer we posted pictures after ship date? Where is the fun there? We might as well wait until regionals!

I also think this is becoming a symantic argument, when it shouldn't even be an argument, period! ... I never really thought this was an issue until it was brought up. This will always be an issue. We have a lot of younger students on here, many of whom still cannot differentiate between a good and a bad teaser... no harm there, we shouldn't punish them for posting "useless" pictures. I would hope that those threads simply fade away due to the lack of responses. Do we really need 2 pages of discussion on what is a good and a bad teaser? It seems like everyone needs to voice their opinion these days and argue about it for days... it makes me want to read CD less and less. Opinions are great, but 40+ pages in some threads is ridiculous.

I am not sure if you noticed, but that thread I created was placed in the rumor mill for a reason. It sounds like you dislike the 'fun' factor that CD posseses... No offesne, but if I didn't occasionally laugh, or have to stare at a random 'teaser' picture for a few minutes to figure out what the pic is of, I don't think I would continue to read CD. That is just me though... yet another opinion to add to the pile.

[Bharat Nain]

Originally Posted by Travis Covington

I don't know about you, but rarely do we have any mechanism completed by week 4. Would you prefer we posted pictures after ship date? Where is the fun there? We might as well wait until regionals!

I also think this is becoming a symantic argument, when it shouldn't even be an argument, period! ... I never really thought this was an issue until it was brought up. This will always be an issue. We have a lot of younger students on here, many of whom still cannot differentiate between a good and a bad teaser... no harm there, we shouldn't punish them for posting "useless" pictures. I would hope that those threads simply fade away due to the lack of responses. Do we really need 2 pages of discussion on what is a good and a bad teaser? It seems like everyone needs to voice their opinion these days and argue about it for days... it makes me want to read CD less and less. Opinions are great, but 40+ pages in some threads is ridiculous.

I am not sure if you noticed, but that thread I created was placed in the rumor mill for a reason. It sounds like you dislike the 'fun' factor that CD posseses... No offesne, but if I didn't occasionally laugh, or have to stare at a random 'teaser' picture for a few minutes to figure out what the pic is of, I don't think I would continue to read CD. That is just me though... yet another opinion to add to the pile.

I agree with that. While all of us are working hard on our robots, we also need to have fun. In recent times, CD has become less appealing. If certain teaser pictures are that bad, there is a close thread option and delete pic/thread option. I am sure they were designed so they can be used on correct occasions.

[Daisy]

Perhaps it would be better to put the teasers in FIRSTr, while "teasers" that show the beginnings of the robot, in CD.

Daisy

[chris31]

Originally Posted by Daisy

Perhaps it would be better to put the teasers in FIRSTr, while "teasers" that show the beginnings of the robot, in CD.

Daisy

Yep thats what I suggested in the FIRSTr thread. I think that would be a good solution.

Originally Posted by chris31

It looks amazing, like I said before. Im now starting to think of the practical uses. Obviuosly a site is worthless without content. There was a thread about mods wanting to cut down the number of teasers people post. FIRSTr would be a good place for those. Just an idea.

[Koko Ed]

Often the silly teasers are due to new people who are very overwhelmed by the excitement of the build season and reading all of the attention lavished on the elites.
People live for acceptance from their peers and want them and their team to have the same acceptance lavished on their team as well. Even if it's something that isn't all that revoloutinary. It's something they've never done before so it's special to them just not to the rest of the FIRST community.
I don't see how anyone is really going to control the "dumb teasers" without alienating people who are going to feel persecuted and censored. ]
The main use of Chiefdelphi is self expression of what FIRST means to you. Sometimes they are not good choices and are met with indifference to outright anger and dissaproval. It would be nice to protect people from their bad choices but not really feasable.
Dumb teasers are still going to happen whether we like them or not. Let's not turn it into a Federal case and make CD a miserable place for the overenthusiatic who's only crime was just not knowing better.

[Sgraff_SRHS06]

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack

I am in full agreement with Madison on this one. Although many enjoy trying to make people "guess" what great thing their team has done, I have trouble seeing how that adds to the colaboration of teams which is what CD is most used for. Why make everyone wait until the regional? Anyone not at the regional won't get to see it. If a team posts a full picture of their robot, drivetrain, arm, or mechanism in the 4th week how many other teams are going to completely ditch their own designs and copy what they saw in a picture? Very few.

I prefer spoilers to teasers. I make a point to check out the robot or part with my own eyes in the team's pit or in a match. I would be unaware of that team if they did not post a spoiler in advance. I give little credit to teasers.

Why post the completed robots in the first place? Answer is simple, it helps with scouting. You want to have some notes set up before the regional (or video notes) about various robots before you go and compete with/against them in regional or championship play.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Sgraff_SRHS06

Why post the completed robots in the first place? Answer is simple, it helps with scouting. You want to have some notes set up before the regional (or video notes) about various robots before you go and compete with/against them in regional or championship play.

From my personal experience all I can gain from just looking at a robot is what they intended to do. I've seen robots that look like elegant monuments to the art of engineering, yet fail miserably on the field, and robots with chicken wire and plastic bottles that make it to Einstein. While pictures may do a little good for scouting and getting a general idea of what other teams may be attempting to do, nothing beats actually watching teams.