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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

I'd wait to see if the RC stays the same in 2007 before purchasing an Serial/USB adapter.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

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I'd wait to see if the RC stays the same in 2007 before purchasing an Serial/USB adapter.
good idea but i would still like to program the old bots.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

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And all of these links to just some of the other threads I found on the same exact topic....

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...=usb+to+serial
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=25823
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24606
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=22424

I suggest the 6 Ft. (1.8m) USB-to-Serial Port Cable... Model: 26-183 that is available at all radio shacks. This is the same adapter that the VEX programming kit has, and if FVC are using it, then I think it is a big hint that it is good. Yes it is a little pricey, but it is worth the quality.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

I bought a Keyspan USB->Serial converter, and have been very happy with it. It works for me under both Windows and Linux.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

I've had good luck with the RadioShack one included in the VEX programming kit.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

There's the Vex one, and there's also this Keyspan one I use:

http://www.keyspan.com/products/usb/usa19hs/

It's slow though, most of them will be, they're meant for PDAs, not interfacing with this kind of hardware.

Also if you're feeling adventurous you could try an electronics project and make your own based on this nifty sucker:
http://www.smileymicros.com/index.ph...position=57:57
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

some older laptops have a serial port on the docking station, and you can buy some of those docking stations dirt cheap on ebay...like the one for my 700 mhz small/light Dell L400. And this docking station is really no more bulky/heavy than some of the usb/serial adapters are! ymmv
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

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some older laptops have a serial port on the docking station, and you can buy some of those docking stations dirt cheap on ebay...like the one for my 700 mhz small/light Dell L400. And this docking station is really no more bulky/heavy than some of the usb/serial adapters are! ymmv
that would be cool......but the new alienware laptop i have dosent have a docking station that i know of.

i may try to build my own .....then again maby not..lol

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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

You might look into PCMCIA serial cards. I have had nothing but problems with the multitude of usb adapters i have tried. These would provide a true serial port.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

Don't by a Belkin! I also recommed the Prolific cable. I'm going to order the Paralax one though to try it out. Anyone see a cardbus express 3/4 rs232 adapter?
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

Parallax is based on the FT232RL I took some important points from the data sheet ( http://www.ftdichip.com/Documents/Da...T232R_v104.pdf ):

• UART interface support for 7 or 8 data bits, 1 or 2 stop bits and odd / even / mark / space / no parity.
• Fully assisted hardware or X-On / X-Off software handshaking.
• Data transfer rates from 300 baud to 3 Megabaud (RS422 / RS485 and at TTL levels) and 300 baud to 1 Megabaud (RS232).
• 256 byte receive buffer and 128 byte transmit buffer utilising buffer smoothing technology to allow for high data throughput.
• FTDI’s royalty-free VCP and D2XX drivers eliminate the requirement for USB driver development in most cases.
• In-built support for event characters and line break condition.
• FIFO receive and transmit buffers for high data throughput.
• Adjustable receive buffer timeout.
• Synchronous and asynchronous bit bang mode interface options with RD# and WR# strobes.
• New CBUS bit bang mode option.
• Support for USB suspend and resume.
• Support for bus powered, self powered, and high-power bus powered USB configurations.
• Integrated 3.3V level converter for USB I/O .
• Integrated level converter on UART and CBUS for interfacing to 5V - 1.8V Logic.
• True 5V / 3.3V / 2.8V / 1.8V CMOS drive output and TTL input.
• 3.3V to 5.25V Single Supply Operation.
• Low operating and USB suspend current.
• Low USB bandwidth consumption.
• UHCI / OHCI / EHCI host controller compatible
• USB 2.0 Full Speed compatible.


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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

We have had no problems with the IOGear GUC232A.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

If you want a real test of an adaptor, just hook it up to the dashboard, switch it to RC mode, and start reading data. Because the dashboard is set to the highest baud normally supported (115200), any USB adapter not able to handle it will bork.

Any adapter that handles this amount of data will be able to download code as rapidly as a native serially port. I'm not saying others won't, they'll just go slower.
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Re: what usb -> serial adapter should i get?

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We have had no problems with the IOGear GUC232A.
We've had good luck with this one as well
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Parallax is based on the FT232RL
This is an incredible little chip by FTDI. We use them at work at their highest baud rate. We also run them for days at a time. They work great.
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