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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

The 1999 piece was floppies according to FIRSTWiki. So I guess thats a circle. After reading all of these posts I like the idea of five goals. One in each corner and one in the center. To make the game 3 vs. 2 or 4 vs 1 would make the competition just that much harder to administrate. I have no real idea but I'm just going to try and wait the 6 days 5 hours and 39 mins and rest up for the build season.
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but what was the game piece shape in 1999, if it was a triangle, than it would have a pattern.
I believe 2003 was the first year that didn't involve circular game peices.
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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

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but what was the game piece shape in 1999, if it was a triangle, than it would have a pattern.
1999 was floppy disks. So, no, they were circular.
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but what was the game piece shape in 1999, if it was a triangle, than it would have a pattern.
Sorry, it looks like you're out of luck. The 1999 paying field piece was a "floppy", which resembled a beanbag coated with rings of Velcro on it. Here's the "pattern" - or lack thereof - of all playing field objects going back to the original year of 1992:

1992: Ball
1993: Ball
1994: Ball
1995: Ball
1996: Ball
1997: Torus (inner tube)
1998: Ball
1999: Floppy (beanbag thingamajig)
2000: Ball
2001: Ball
2002: Ball
2003: Boxes
2004: Ball
2005: Tetra
2006: Ball
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Sorry, it looks like you're out of luck. The 1999 paying field piece was a "floppy", which resembled a beanbag coated with rings of Velcro on it. Here's the "pattern" - or lack thereof - of all playing field objects going back to the original year of 1992:

1992: Ball
1993: Ball
1994: Ball
1995: Ball
1996: Ball
1997: Torus (inner tube)
1998: Ball
1999: Floppy (beanbag thingamajig)
2000: Ball
2001: Ball
2002: Ball
2003: Boxes
2004: Ball
2005: Tetra
2006: Ball
Well.. the past aside, I think FIRST might now be into switching things up, which suggests balls may show up every other year, or so..

I don't know what the game is going to be, but I'll make the bold-stupid prediction that balls will not be the primary scoring object of 2007.
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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

my best guess, taken from part of theories i really liked from this thread, is that the field will be layed out like the 5 of diamonds, some sort of tower or scoring device on each corner, and in the center a free spinning circle (made of diamond aluminum) on a platform. points for being on the platform at the end. possibly a hanoi tower type game with innertubes on the 4 towers? this clue really cant get you to do anything but throw out a crazy guess based on what your subconcious would like to see the game as.

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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

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Well.. the past aside, I think FIRST might now be into switching things up, which suggests balls may show up every other year, or so..

I don't know what the game is going to be, but I'll make the bold-stupid prediction that balls will not be the primary scoring object of 2007.
now there is some ground to stand on. I would agree that the pattern theory has been blown away. I have been in first for three years and I hadn't taken the time to look back on the challenges it was jsut a rumor I had heard sorry. So if its not a ball/circle what shape is it? Banana? Pentagon? Those are the two distinctive possiblilities based on the fish picture clue and the "5" clue.
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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

With all these hints to water and fish, and now the diamond plate with a blue background, it made me think of my aunt's aquarium. She's got this fish that she says is called a blue diamond. I looked it up on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discus_...lour_Varieties

The fish is a variation of the Discus fish. Maybe the peices are going to be discs? This kinda fits with the idea of inner tubes that have been mentioned. They're the same shape!
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oooo i like that idea.
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Banana? Pentagon? Those are the two distinctive possiblilities based on the fish picture clue and the "5" clue.
Which fish picture clue? At least one of those is a fake by my guess, and probably both. The one by Dave is most likely a red herring (although no herring is shown).
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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

I think that there are going to be five different poles that we will need to stack inflatable pool tubes on, two for each team as well as one wild one that either team can stack on. They would be positioned two at each end and one in the dead center.

As far as the whole diamond idea goes, I'm kind of confused as to where that came from. Somebody said the five of diamonds might have something to do with it, but aren't there also fives of hearts, spades, and clubs? Clarification would be great thanks.
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As far as the whole diamond idea goes, I'm kind of confused as to where that came from. Somebody said the five of diamonds might have something to do with it, but aren't there also fives of hearts, spades, and clubs? Clarification would be great thanks.
I think they were refering to the 5 of diamonds because the 5 is on diamond plate.
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Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast

oh ok. well, going into more depth, this is what I think the game will be, but it is most likely entirely wrong.

The field would be the same size as last year and be divided into two sides, red and blue alliances. It will be 3 v 3 and the field will have 5 poles on it set up like the 5 of diamonds card. Each team would have two poles that would represent their goals and the middle goal would be a wild goal that either team could score on. The goals would be on the opposing team's side (red's on blue side, blue's on red side) while the wild one would be in the dead center. To score, team's would need to stack pool tubes on the poles, each tube representing an amount of points. Also, the match would be split into quarter's like last year's game, red can score, then blue, then both.

The middle pole would be set up on a raised platform that is made of diamond plate. There would be steep ramps leading up to the platform that are also made up of diamond plate. the platform would be big enough for, say, 4 robots to fit on. If a team has all three of their robots on the platform by the end of the match, they get bonus points.

I would say that there would be some sort of tic-tac-toe element carried over from the 2005 game, but I don't think FIRST would carry over something that has been used so recently.

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I think they were refering to the 5 of diamonds because the 5 is on diamond plate.
I believe they were also refering to the layout of the diamonds on the playing card one at each corner and then a centered one. My personal theory/hope is that there is a layout like the five of diamonds. At each of the five postitions there would be a raised platform. The goal is to all three of the robots on your alliance onto the platform. I don't know the idea seems a little simple to me still but it would make for very easy driving scoring and building. Your alliance has three on you win. The part that would be bad about this is is you have a dead robot on your alliance you would automatically lose. I guess the problems with this clue are 1: Way too vague and 2: Its a picture way so it is easy to interpret as you see it, where as a textual clue is up for interpretation, but it says what is says theres no changing that.
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Okay my sister came up with paranoid ideas. or weird or whatever. I printed out the picture and my sister looked at it upside down, she said "hey it's a 'g'".
Turn it 90 degrees one way from the 5, and it looks like a fancy connected 07. w00t for 2007 shorthand.
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