Contact with the Rack

[robotguru1717]

Question regarding rule specification

ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple or attach to any field structure

Would this rule out a airplane air refuel type system where we try to hold the spider so it doesnt shake so we can mount rings easier? It isnt exactly attaching, just holding it in place by putting a frame around the goal. What is your oppinion? Does it violate the rule?

-Martin Cacan

[ThomasP]

Originally Posted by robotguru1717

Question regarding rule specification



Would this rule out a airplane air refuel type system where we try to hold the spider so it doesnt shake so we can mount rings easier? It isnt exactly attaching, just holding it in place by putting a frame around the goal. What is your oppinion? Does it violate the rule?

-Martin Cacan

"grab" and "hold" are synonymous to me...

[robotguru1717]

It seems to me like there is a difference since the words they use to describe illegal contact with structures are all active functions...whereas containing the goal is a passive opperation.

-Martin Cacan

[Bethany Mc.]

Well, if you have something wrapping around it, and able to pick it up or opens and closes, i don't think that would be allowed, but if you an open sided stationary frame fit to the size of the tube and hold it in place, I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.

[robotguru1717]

It would be like a funnel that would help us guide onto the goal. It wouldnt open or close or anything but it still is around the goal plate.

-Martin Cacan

[DCA Fan]

You may align the leg with a funnel-type device. As long as you are not ATTACHED to the leg (ie, suction, magnet, etc) you are in the clear.

[robotguru1717]

Is that a personal oppinion or a for sure.

just fyi to consider...since the rack is solid aluminum magnets are out of the question.

-Martin Cacan

[Tetraman]

Originally Posted by robotguru1717

Is that a personal oppinion or a for sure.

just fyi to consider...since the rack is solid aluminum magnets are out of the question.

-Martin Cacan

If what you are using to stabilize your robot presses against the rack, you are fine. If what you are using to stabilize your robot connects the robot to the rack, it's no good.

[jesusfreakmths]

Does anyone know if the rack rotates during the game? Can you bump it to make it spin around so that it is harder for the other team to score? Is the rack Bolted down right before the game play?

[robotguru1717]

it is not able to spin during matches

[DCA Fan]

Originally Posted by jesusfreakmths

Does anyone know if the rack rotates during the game? Can you bump it to make it spin around so that it is harder for the other team to score? Is the rack Bolted down right before the game play?

No, the rack does not rotate during the game. You cannot move it with the robot.

[robotguru1717]

Originally Posted by DCA Fan

You may align the leg with a funnel-type device. As long as you are not ATTACHED to the leg (ie, suction, magnet, etc) you are in the clear.

is this personal opinion or have you found out that it is completely legal.

-Martin Cacan

[Cody Carey]

Originally Posted by DCA Fan

No, the rack does not rotate during the game. You cannot move it with the robot.

I am having trouble finding the rule about this, can you point it out?

[6 foot 8]

The rack does not spin as far as I know but does shake from side to side from contact if you watch the video with Dean and Woody.

[ahecht]

Originally Posted by DCA Fan

No, the rack does not rotate during the game. You cannot move it with the robot.

This is not entirely true. The rack is chained to a fixed base located at the center of the field, but it is free to move within the limits of the chains. The only thing holding it in place is friction with the carpet. White it won't spin, a hard knock with the robot can cause it to shift or rotate slightly.