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Unread 06-01-2007, 21:08
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Re: 2007 Kit

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no no no not the van door take the mini bike or the window motor but don't take the van door
i think we need to make a memorial
I too shed a tear for the van-door motor. It has been a very good friend over the years.
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Re: 2007 Kit

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if we didnt use last years transmission are we allowed to use it this year? last year we used a custom and it was horrible getting it to work..so we have last years that was in the kit of parts that we are wanting to use. any one know??

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The only way that you could use last years (unmodified) transmission is if it is a COTS mechanism that is currently available for sale to all of the teams. As IFI is no longer selling it, you are likely out of luck.

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Re: 2007 Kit

I also liked the van door motor and the old batteries. Espically since we just made a really nice charging station last year. I really like the new AndyMark stuff and the new pneumatics.
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Unread 06-01-2007, 22:18
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Re: 2007 Kit

Comparing last year KOP drive train with this year. 2006 the drive train with the addition of 2 21 tooth sprockets, 2 28 tooth sprockets, a box chain and 4 kludged up wheel adapters gave a team a nice 4 motor 4 wheel drive base. Could be done in one night. With this year's kit we get 2 wheel drive and the opportunity to spend allot more $$$ to get 4 wheel drive out of the kit drive train. What do we do? Buy 2 more 56 MM gear heads and associated sprockets and go with four wheel independent drive or buy the 2 cim gear case add on and use 1 56 mm gear head. I have reservations about putting 2 cims into 1 56mm gear head. Maybe others will have a more analytical comment on the input handling of the banes bot gear heads. Then there is the output shaft loading issue that Banes bots warns about and the additional bearing plate they sell because of it. Then again we could just use the 2005 KOP gear boxes. They're in pristine condition and have proved to be robust.
The Andy Mark KOP wheels have much softer rubber. The Skyway wheels last year wore down allot. I'm afraid the softer compound may be a wear problem. I think we may put disposable rubbers on the wheels. Also I think the Skyway wheel profile was a positive when driving on carpet.
I can see the BB gear heads being a positive for our arm drive.
The encoders available from BB are a definite step forward.
Over all with less then 24 hour I have to say the kit is 2 steps forward and one back. Our team is going to need some additional funds to make this work this year. Last year we got away real cheap.
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Re: 2007 Kit

I like this year's kit box- mainly the new radios and the vacuum engine excite me.

This box also provided me with my third legal license for LabView
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Re: 2007 Kit

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The only way that you could use last years (unmodified) transmission is if it is a COTS mechanism that is currently available for sale to all of the teams. As IFI is no longer selling it, you are likely out of luck.

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Maybe i'm wrong, but doesn't AndyMark sell some kind of variant that is similar to the KOP Transmissions that we used to receive? As seen here - http://www.andymark.biz/am-0011.html
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Re: 2007 Kit

Anyone notice the lack of cylinders in the kit? For that matter, <R105> mentions a "Pneumatic Components Order form", but I haven't found that yet either. Anyone know if these are part of the SMC bag or what is supposed to be in that bag? No mention in the KOP Checklist.
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Re: 2007 Kit

Dear Bosch Van Door Motor,
Everyone here at FIRST really misses you. You were the best high torque output that we knew, always there cranking away. I will never forget the day when you helped us win that regional... *sniff* I know we had our differences, like that fact that our machining was in inches and you were all metric, but we never let that get in the way of building the best robots ever. Sorry if I get a little emotional, but I hate saying goodbye to a friends. I will miss you a lot for this year's game!!!

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Re: 2007 Kit

I just want to verify that, as per the KoP checklist on the FIRST site, we're only supposed to have one Fisher Price motor and gearbox. We received two in our kit.

Did anyone else get two?
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Re: 2007 Kit

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I just want to verify that, as per the KoP checklist on the FIRST site, we're only supposed to have one Fisher Price motor and gearbox. We received two in our kit.

Did anyone else get two?
We got two, I was just about to post the same question.
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Re: 2007 Kit

We got 2 as well.
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Re: 2007 Kit

We recieved two as well.
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Re: 2007 Kit

We got 2 fischer prices also.
I also really like the AM wheels. Our initial tests show they have a really good coeffcient of friction. They also seem extremely easy to add bearings and a sprocket to.
Anyone have and information about how good the traction is after the treads have been worn in? Is it better, worse, or the same as when they're fresh and new.
Thanks for the great wheels.
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Re: 2007 Kit

We got two.

I love the new BaneBot stuff.
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Re: 2007 Kit

We received two FP as well.
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