Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by BrianR

How funny would that be, 3 ramps that could climb each other!

...all at the same time, so none of them are touching the ground...

I think a lot of teams are coming up with the same ideas, since a ramp is the easy kind of robot to build. You will definitely see alliances of three ramp bots, so sanddrag's comment is all the more notable - can yours climb a ramp too?


Don

[Madison]

Originally Posted by Don Rotolo

...all at the same time, so none of them are touching the ground...

I think a lot of teams are coming up with the same ideas, since a ramp is the easy kind of robot to build. You will definitely see alliances of three ramp bots, so sanddrag's comment is all the more notable - can yours climb a ramp too?


Don

Along those lines...

For the love of all that is holy, people, please don't build robots that are micrometers short of the legal footprint. Go an inch smaller in all dimensions and you'll have a happier time fitting your robot onto someone else's, should you need to do that.

[Phantomechanics]

Thanx for starting this thread our team 2028 was wondering about this, we're not quite sure how we're going to work this but so far have thought about letting people on us, or taking a few penalty points and setting ramps up for the other bots, it works out to be a significant amount gained. but we aren't sure

[Robo_Coyote]

Our robot would be able to climb other robots we plan on using mainly the same drive train as last year but we plan on being able to let others get on us as well. Our robot would be able to do either or. Plus our drive train is a really powerful one so we could basically man up on the other teams top scorer and take them outta the match

[=Martin=Taylor=]

We will be using a replica of a chassis we built in the off season.

After playing around with this chassis today, we found that it could climb a 15-20 degree slope. Keep in mind that this thing has a ground clearance of about an inch and was not designed for climbing.

As to whether we will be climbing or climbed, we are not yet certain. But it is most likely that we will be focusing most of our attention on ringing.

[J23t]

im pretty sure that my team is planning on trying to accomplish both carrying a robot and possibly if needed, climbing on another one. we plan on using ramp method.. as far as i can tell from our last meeting...

[Windwarrior]

What about a 'bot that others could link onto, and then LIFT both of them?

Wouldn't that be interesting?

Windwarrior
Mentor-Team 17777

[T3_1565]

what happens with this poll if your thinking that your robot will do both???

[George A.]

I think the only real way teams are going to stack is by using a ramp system.

Not to sound too cynical or anything but lets face it I highly doubt any team is going to let another team try to pick up their robot with an arm. There's just too much that can go wrong and take them out of the competition.

Originally Posted by Wayne C.

how about going around and capturing the other alliance's three robots and hoisting them up over 1 ft in your ends zone. Then allow your partners to also climb up....

There is a penalty for trying to drive on top of the opposing robots, and you can't have a ramp deployed outside of the home zone, so I don't know how well capturing would work.

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by BrianR

I agree with this, the ramp teams are likely to only be able to be defense and a ramp. I guess that is a valid option, but my only sticking point is that the maximum number of teams that should have 2 robots on top is 1/3 of the teams. Any more than that and it is a waste and will result in very lopsided matches. I think that I would be more than happy to face an alliance with two ramp teams and one moderate scoring team.

I respectfully disagree. A system to score on the lower rung can be very simple and light. And the ramps shouldn't have to weigh more than 10ish lbs each, I think. I realize that's a good chunk of weight, but you'd still have a good amount to play with for other systems.

[razor95kds]

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII

We will be using a replica of a chassis we built in the off season.

After playing around with this chassis today, we found that it could climb a 15-20 degree slope. Keep in mind that this thing has a ground clearance of about an inch and was not designed for climbing.

As to whether we will be climbing or climbed, we are not yet certain. But it is most likely that we will be focusing most of our attention on ringing.

What happend to the helicoper?

[Guy Davidson]

Originally Posted by Eric W. Jones

It would not. it says in the handbook that if a robot is kept from leaving the opposing home zone, they are not assessed the ten-point penalty. Whether they would give the opposing team a bonus... :shrugs:

It is clear, as per <G56> ROBOTS in HOME ZONE - ROBOTS score bonus points at the end of the match if they are entirely in their HOME ZONE... Hence, grabbing opposite robots and lifting them won't score you points. It might also count as pinning, which would give you a penalty.

[Parker]

What about four long pneumatic pistons that would lift the bot so another bot can drive under it. It's easier than a lifting device. The rods would be in danger though, so the cylinders could push down aluminum rods that lift the bot. Once a bot is underneith, raise the rods.

[Tri_Lam]

Originally Posted by Parker

What about four long pneumatic pistons that would lift the bot so another bot can drive under it. It's easier than a lifting device. The rods would be in danger though, so the cylinders could push down aluminum rods that lift the bot. Once a bot is underneith, raise the rods.

its a good idea but there is a chance that your allies may not be able to ahve anther robot on top of them