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possible ramp/lift configurations

I was thinking about what it would be like to have a huge, unfoldable 12'' ramp that could be deployed into the home zone, right after atonomous. This would alow your alliance partners to get up on it, and it would bock a good deal, or all, of the oposing alliances rings. I know that it would be illegal to just leave something on the field, detatched... but what if you "re-attached" at the end? would that be allowed? Please give me your input.

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Cool Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

This sounds like a good idea if it is posable, I am not shure if the rules let you, please let me know. Thanks.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

Robots can't have a ramp deployed, unless they are in their home zone, because of tipping hazards. The robots probably don't want to get on top of another until the end. And you probably can't have a detachable component, i.e. a ramp.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

Can't have anything detach from your robot at any time, unless it's completely by accident. Even if you pick it back up. G40 is pretty clear. You can't intentionally detach part of your robot. If you could, I'd just as soon deploy a rack blocker on the opponent's side of the field and pick it up at the end of the match right before the bell.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

Ohh well... thats too bad.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

<G40> states robots my not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisims on the field.

So If you detach then reattach later, you would have intentionally detached so it would not be allowed
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

Nah, you can't do that. Look at <G40> in Section 7 in the Manual.


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<G40> Detaching mechanisms - ROBOTS may not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisms on the field. Violations will result in a 10-point penalty per incident. If an intentionally detached component or mechanism significantly impedes access to the RACK or an ALLIANCE ROBOT during the END GAME, the offending ROBOT will be disqualified from the match.
I thought it was a good idea until my friend pointed that out to me. Sorry to ruin your idea...
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

just wondering... Does that still count as "attached" if its on a tether or cable?
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

as far as I know if it on a cable or tether it is still attacted to your robot... but then again if you deploy a ramp at the beginning you need ALOT of cable for your errands driving around, and then you would have to wind it all back up and make sure that it doesnt interfer with the other robots. Why are so many people stuck on a ramp anyways.. I mean I understand its easy, but so many questions about it lol
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

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Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.
hmmm... does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?
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hmmm... does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?
Outside the home zone, the limit is 72". Inside, it's the size of the home zone. This applies all game. (See section 8 for details about size.)
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

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You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.
I was talking about that the other day but man that is a huge robot.
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Re: possible ramp/lift configurations

i think that even if you can leave a ramp at the home zone it counts as part of your robot and i cant think of a way to lift the ramp 10cm above the floor level
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