possible ramp/lift configurations

[Joe J.]

<G40> states robots my not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisims on the field.

So If you detach then reattach later, you would have intentionally detached so it would not be allowed

[zander_108]

just wondering... Does that still count as "attached" if its on a tether or cable?

[T3_1565]

as far as I know if it on a cable or tether it is still attacted to your robot... but then again if you deploy a ramp at the beginning you need ALOT of cable for your errands driving around, and then you would have to wind it all back up and make sure that it doesnt interfer with the other robots. Why are so many people stuck on a ramp anyways.. I mean I understand its easy, but so many questions about it lol

[Taylor]

Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.

[zander_108]

Originally Posted by boiler

Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.

hmmm... does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by zander_108

hmmm... does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?

Outside the home zone, the limit is 72". Inside, it's the size of the home zone. This applies all game. (See section 8 for details about size.)

[Dan Zollman]

You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.

[nuggetsyl]

Originally Posted by worldbringer

You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.

I was talking about that the other day but man that is a huge robot.

[Guy Shapira]

i think that even if you can leave a ramp at the home zone it counts as part of your robot and i cant think of a way to lift the ramp 10cm above the floor level

[zander_108]

yeh, that would be an awfully big robot, and would have to stay there the whole time... so thats not a good idea, because even if you could prevent the other alliance from getting their 9 ringers, if thats all you did, than it wouldent get you THAT far... however, it is still something that if someone can get to work, go for it.

[Musician]

Originally Posted by zander_108

just wondering... Does that still count as "attached" if its on a tether or cable?

yes it is counted as attached. HOWEVER... i would not want to do that. I believe that it was back in 2002 many teams were making little "minibots" that were tethered to the "main robot" and would drive off into the home row just before the match ended. we happened to be one of the teams that did that. one team decided that they would purposely entangle themselves on our tether(no its true i'm not making stuff up), somehow it was considered our fault, and thus we didn't make it to the finals. So i leave you with my though on long tethers: bad idea.

[zander_108]

Originally Posted by Musician

yes it is counted as attached. HOWEVER... i would not want to do that. I believe that it was back in 2002 many teams were making little "minibots" that were tethered to the "main robot" and would drive off into the home row just before the match ended. we happened to be one of the teams that did that. one team decided that they would purposely entangle themselves on our tether(no its true i'm not making stuff up), somehow it was considered our fault, and thus we didn't make it to the finals. So i leave you with my though on long tethers: bad idea.

really? thats good to know that its allowed, however, I did notice that that might happen, robots getting tangled up that is.... If someone did it, it would have to be pretty well done to avoid contact. Thanks for your help by the way

[Dick Linn]

Anyone want to buy a motorized retractable ramp assembly, circa 2003? It was designed to have other robots drive on top, low mileage, etc. Heh, heh, heh. We call that robot "wedgie", our second year attempt.

[Paul Pawelski]

Dick, We can't buy it, but we would love to see your drawings, photos & weight roll-up.

Paul Pawelski
first_team_2038@comcast.net
Igneum Ferrum

[meatmanek]

Our team considered doing this and just sitting there.

No, having a long tether is not allowed - This violates several rules, notably the 72x72 rule and the rule about not having a part on your robot which provides serious risk of entanglement (cable running along the floor.)

In 2002, this might have been allowed, it wasn't until 2006 that there was a size limit.