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| View Poll Results: Getting on top vs letting on top vs other. | |||
| We will allow one partner robot to get 4" high on us |
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7 | 3.02% |
| We will allow one partner robot to get 12" high on us |
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36 | 15.52% |
| We will allow two partner robots to get 4" high on us |
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6 | 2.59% |
| We will allow two partner robots to get 12" high on us |
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144 | 62.07% |
| We will climb onto other robots at the end. |
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25 | 10.78% |
| We will only score ringers until the ending buzzer. |
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14 | 6.03% |
| Voters: 232. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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#31
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
I can tell you right now.... the ramp design for our robot is 0 degrees and can lift 2 robots 1 1/2 feet off of the ground. our robot is 4 feet 120 and has an arm, four wheel speed, and four wheel torque mode. Not sure if all in going to work since we are still in the designing stages, but it looks pretty promiseing. Anyway good luck everyone.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
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Also to teams building ramps, look at what material you plan on using and see if the surface (i.e. diamond plate) would make it easy or hard for a robot to climb up it. You can always cut holes and things in it to help with tracktion but remeber that some surfaces are still pretty slick. Not only does your robot have to support its own weight (if you plan on holding other robots), if you have a second robot on top, you are now holding up 240 lbs or so. Having another robot squish yours would be a very bad experiance so plan on making your robot robust. As for lifting robots, take into account the changing CG of your robot and the one you would be lifting. Also remeber to have a latching mechanism so when power is disabled the one you will be supporting doesnt come crashing to the ground. Hopefully some of these tips will help someone. Just thought I would share my thoughts and experiances. |
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
What about having a ramp and the piston idea. Have a robot drive on top of you then fire the pistons. The pnuematics can easily lift the max. 240 lbs. of 2 robots. Besides, I don't think three robots stacked on top of 1 is really going to happen that much.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
Well our team had about a 45 min debate about if we should get robots on top of us or if we should get on to another robot.. after 45 mins we finally came to the conclusion that we would not be liftin other robots and would not focus on getting on top of robot but will try to be able to get on top of another one, but than again that was only a day 1 decision it could still change
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
As a note to all teams planning to build lifter/ramp bots, or debating the idea like us, two robots is actually a max of about 297 lbs, (2*(120lb robot + 15lb bumpers + 13.5 lb battery) not 240lbs.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
Ya, it seems like a lot of people forget about the bumpers and battery. They add a significant amount of weight.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
...and it seems that people continue to forget to factor in the weight of their own structure. Remember that you're not only lifting their robot and its battery and bumpers, but also the platform and supporting structure of your own robot as well.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
In the poll, it asks if teams would rather descore/rescore spoilers than climb on other robots...is anyone taking that route instead?
I think it's really going to depend on the way that particular match is going, whether its more benificial to move a spoiler or to lift two robots... |
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
We were talking about this yesterday at our meeting and I think we're pretty set on letting another robot climb on us. Another teammate and I were working on ramp possibilities during physics class today. xD
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
The way i read the rule, it states that the lowest part of the robot is higher that 4 inches above the carpeted surface. This would allow a platform to be deployed and let a robot climb it and not on my robot. We are looking at a prototype and it folds back over our robot and the arm is still useful for the ringers. After we get to the home zone, we will deploy the platform with a small ramp to climb. It will have to be parked sideways. Still researching this ideal.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
my own team personally thinks that we can have a platform on top so the other 2 robots can climb up like the ramp last year but have the platform double as an arm for ringers. i personally think the helicopter was much more doable.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
Are you implying that the mechanism (ramp,platform,etc) that the other alliance robots are mounting cannot be touching the floor? I didn't see anything about that. We should be able to build a platform that rests on the floor and raises the other robot 4". The platform would only need to support the weight of 1 robot. You could have this on both sides of the robot and lift 2 of them.
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
I've seen the idea of a helicopter pop up once or twice, so I just have to say this again:
At the end of a match, the two drive teams on the chopper's alliance who will be picked up turn to one another and yell (in a GOVERNATOR voice): "GET TO ZE CHOPPUR- NOW!!" The chopper team picks them up and says over a megaphone to the opposing alliance: "ASTA LA VISTA, BABY!" Now, back to the topic. I won't give away how our team is planning to pick up robots, but suffice to say that we want to passively pick up one to 4" (i.e. a ramp on top of our 'bot), and then worry about getting that one to 12", because that's more likely than two at 4" (hopefully one will be dealing with spoilers), and it's the same point value. |
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Re: Letting robots on top vs getting on top of robots
I think this poll is inaccurate. For instance, we have the capability to lift one or two robots 12" off the ground, but if there is a better lifter on our alliance, our lifts are removable, allowing us to ge lifted. And if our lift breaks, we can hang ringers until it is time to be lifted.
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