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Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I'm just curious... if you were an alliance captain, would you choose a good team with a yellow card or an average team that hasn't gotten yellow carded first?

I'd personally prefer the average team because I'd rather not have an alliance partner that could be shut down any second.

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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I'd say depends on who it is and what they got it for. I figure if we all just decorate our robots in an abundance of yellow flags there will be no problems.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

Your yellow cards are reset at eliminations.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

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I'm just curious... if you were an alliance captain, would you choose a good team with a yellow card or an average team that hasn't gotten yellow carded first?
Interesting question, and I apologize for advance for not reading the rules yet, and I usually don't do that but.. I am assuming since you are asking this flag status does NOT reset during the finals?

Edit: I think Adam answered my question nicely. lol

Looks like this thread is not even needed. But if you know a status when they are in the Ranking periods, it would help determine a good partner in the finals and help you avoid ones that are more agresssive than you are comfortable working with.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

In a second. alot of the best teams will get yellow cards. If a team is good enough to get picked then I don't care if they have a yellow flag stuck in there bot. Even the best team can get a yellow card, there are always weird things that happen on the field. In my opinion the I pick the bot that best fits my strategy no matter what
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

To me the card means nothing besides the fact that that team is a) agressive, and b) that that team is willing to do what it takes to win. Although that team took it over the line once doesn't mean they will do it again, and they would at least have a breifing if I had picked them and noticed rough contact in other matches that the refs did not call.

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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I believe that their abilities will determine. Good scouting allows you to know the team and how they can help or hinder your alliance, not a yellow flag.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

My view is like this: If Redateam is an appealing team to our strategy, but has a yellow flag, is there any other team at the competition that has that the same or better capability that doesn't have a yellow flag? If so, pick that other team. If not, pick Redateam.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I think it's important to look at
a) when they received that yellow flag. If it was one of their first matches, have they done anything to improve since then? Have they become less aggressive and accomplished their strategy another way?
b) Did getting a yellow flag completely eliminate their entire strategy?

I personally think it's less about the flag and more about how the team WORKS with the flag. So I will say, yes, I would absolutely be willing to pick a team that has a yellow flag for elimination rounds.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

The driver would be the problem. If the team's driver gets the team a yellow card, they can void his "license" to drive and have another person take their spot the rest of the competition. Once the elimination rounds reset the cards, I still wouldn't take the chance with that driver, because tension will be higher than in regular matches and they could do unthinkable things in response to the pressure.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I would have to say it depends heavilly on how they got the yellow card. If it was a mistake or something that wasn't completely intentional, i would have no problem picking the team. However, if the team had been harassing other robots and finally got the yellow card they deserve, even if that robot has what our alliance needs to win if the possibility of them getting easilly red-carded remains, i'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

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I would have to say it depends heavilly on how they got the yellow card. If it was a mistake or something that wasn't completely intentional
It's going to be hard to get a yellow card on accident, in my opinion. If you get it, you're going to deserve it, and it may be a sign of teams that are continually too aggressive, rather than just doing something wrong in one match.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

i would pick up a yellow-carded team because I according to the rules the status of the card is reset
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

I think if a team has a yellow card, that shows their aggressiveness in playing the game. Others may disagree, but I think that is another criteria to consider when picking teams.

Getting a yellow card to me shows that a team is willing to push their limits and test just how far they can go.

I'm not saying that I'm in favor of teams being aggressive or anything of that sort, and I think that if a team got a red card, then it would be a completely different story.
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Re: Would you pick a yellow-carded team for playoffs?

1625 got a yellow card at IRI 2006 (IRI has used them at least since 2004, when I first attended) during the qualification matches. 71 picked them to join their 5th seeded alliance. That alliance went on to win IRI.
Also, I believe that yellow cards carried over between qualification and elimination matches at IRI, and they don't during official FIRST events, which would make a yellow card team more appealing.
If a team has received one (or more) red cards, it may be a different situation.
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