LabView for the mac?

[Arkorobotics]

Our team got LabView Version 8.2 and in the manual it says you can install it on a mac (minimum Mac OS X 10.3.9). Why is it not working on my mac? When I put the CD inside, I can't find installer. What do I do?

p.s.- This is a G4, so no windows.

[Kyle Fenton]

This years version of labview is the windows only student version. Which is weird because last year they gave us multi-platform version which included a mac version. So if you can get last years version, then you can use it.

[Arkorobotics]

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton

This years version of labview is the windows only student version. Which is weird because last year they gave us multi-platform version which included a mac version. So if you can get last years version, then you can use it.

OH! Thanks so much! I have been really wanting to get my hands on this software.

[Danny Diaz]

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton

This years version of labview is the windows only student version.

Whoa - this is the first I've been hearing about this (so thanks so much for bringing it up!). What we committed to shipping to teams this year was the LabVIEW Full Development System - the installer is the same for any version, but your license included with your kit should have activated the software for the Full Development System. Does the license included with the kits this year activate LabVIEW for the Student Edition instead? That should not be! I will verify this tomorrow and see what we can do to get those licenses upgraded pronto if this is true!

As far as the Mac version, I had been under the impression that we would be shipping the Windows and the Mac versions together this year, same as always. However, I was not able to verify this for myself since we direct-shipped the LabVIEW kits from our production facility to FIRST, and I haven't had the opportunity to check out the LabVIEW package included with my team's KOP (we were supposed to start installing software on Monday, but we've been shut down because of the icy weather here in Texas all week so far). If you did not receive a Mac version, and you really want a Mac version, I'm sure I can make that happen for you - send me an e-mail at: "frc [at] ni.com" and give me your name, team number, and full mailing address and I'll see about making it happen for you!

I'm truly sorry about all of this, and thanks for bringing it to my attention!

-Danny

[Kyle Fenton]

Originally Posted by Danny Diaz

Whoa - this is the first I've been hearing about this (so thanks so much for bringing it up!). What we committed to shipping to teams this year was the LabVIEW Full Development System - the installer is the same for any version, but your license included with your kit should have activated the software for the Full Development System. Does the license included with the kits this year activate LabVIEW for the Student Edition instead? That should not be! I will verify this tomorrow and see what we can do to get those licenses upgraded pronto if this is true!

As far as the Mac version, I had been under the impression that we would be shipping the Windows and the Mac versions together this year, same as always. However, I was not able to verify this for myself since we direct-shipped the LabVIEW kits from our production facility to FIRST, and I haven't had the opportunity to check out the LabVIEW package included with my team's KOP (we were supposed to start installing software on Monday, but we've been shut down because of the icy weather here in Texas all week so far). If you did not receive a Mac version, and you really want a Mac version, I'm sure I can make that happen for you - send me an e-mail at: "frc [at] ni.com" and give me your name, team number, and full mailing address and I'll see about making it happen for you!

I'm truly sorry about all of this, and thanks for bringing it to my attention!

-Danny

Actually I am not sure now. On my team's labview box, there is a white sticker that says windows 2k/xp only. I did not actually look into the box but I did not find any indication that is was mac compatible.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Danny Diaz

Whoa - this is the first I've been hearing about this (so thanks so much for bringing it up!). What we committed to shipping to teams this year was the LabVIEW Full Development System - the installer is the same for any version, but your license included with your kit should have activated the software for the Full Development System. Does the license included with the kits this year activate LabVIEW for the Student Edition instead? That should not be! I will verify this tomorrow and see what we can do to get those licenses upgraded pronto if this is true!

When we activated it did come up as "LabVIEW Full Development System". It was the same for what we installed from the CDs and for the evaluations version downloaded from the web.

I think Kyle may have been mistaken when he said student version, since that is what we got this year.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Danny Diaz

As far as the Mac version, I had been under the impression that we would be shipping the Windows and the Mac versions together this year, same as always. However, I was not able to verify this for myself since we direct-shipped the LabVIEW kits from our production facility to FIRST, and I haven't had the opportunity to check out the LabVIEW package included with my team's KOP (we were supposed to start installing software on Monday, but we've been shut down because of the icy weather here in Texas all week so far). If you did not receive a Mac version, and you really want a Mac version, I'm sure I can make that happen for you - send me an e-mail at: "frc [at] ni.com" and give me your name, team number, and full mailing address and I'll see about making it happen for you!

Would it be possible to get the linux version as well?

[Danny Diaz]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Would it be possible to get the linux version as well?

Last year I had to say NO since there's not a "Student Edition" version of Linux, but since FIRST teams are being given the "Full Development System" version of the Windows software then it might be possible to also offer the Linux Full Development System version by special request.

Hold that thought for a few days, and I'll see what the Academic team here at NI says about it.

-Danny

[Danny Diaz]

Originally Posted by Danny Diaz

... it might be possible to also offer the Linux Full Development System version by special request.

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I'm afraid that we are no longer able to provide this support. With the inclusion of the Driver Station PC in the FRC 2010 season, National Instruments' official policy is to no longer support Linux or Mac development environments for FRC. Since your Driver Station PC runs Windows XP, all teams now have a Windows development system for programming. I understand that the Driver Station PC may not be an ideal environment for programming your robot, but we are no longer able to support FRC teams running Linux or Mac.

-Danny

[haye321]

Right now I am sitting in my hotel room in Atlanta and I have just seen LabView today in a presentation, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. I have an Intel Mac however I was disappointed to find out that the 30-day-trial was Windows only. Is there any way I can get a chance to use it now?

[Danny Diaz]

Even though the season is over, you are still more than welcome to ask for Mac and Linux versions of LabVIEW, we didn't put any time limits on the request period...

One thing to keep in mind, though - we do not have a Mac interface for directly programming the cRIO family of controllers (we did at one time, but have since deprecated it). While you will be able to develop LabVIEW code for the Mac, you will only be able to upload code to the cRIO controller from Windows or Linux. I do not know if the C/C++ interface will have this limitation or not, but that information will be made available when the full system is released.

-Danny

[MWagon]

Those of you with the newer Intel-based Mac's can consider running the Windows version of LabVIEW under Bootcamp (comes with the Mac) or by purchasing a copy of Parallels Desktop ($69 - $89). See www.parallels.com or other Virtualization software. Here's a link from NI's website documenting operation of Labview and the cRio under Parallels and VMWare Fusion www.vmware.com/mac


http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/6521

Caveats:

1. No, I have not tried this myself yet
2. Yes, I know virualizers will not be as fast as the base CPU, blah blah
3. In addition to the Intel Mac, you'll want as much RAM as you can manage. 2 Gb would be a good starting point.

Have fun!

[Danny Diaz]

Originally Posted by MWagon

Those of you with the newer Intel-based Mac's can consider running the Windows version of LabVIEW under Bootcamp (comes with the Mac) or by purchasing a copy of Parallels Desktop ($69 - $89). See www.parallels.com or other Virtualization software. Here's a link from NI's website documenting operation of Labview and the cRio under Parallels and VMWare Fusion www.vmware.com/mac

We use VMWare like this in-house, and I've seen Parallels Desktop work (it's incredibly slick).

-Danny

[MWagon]

While I'm sure the Mac users out there already know this, I should have mentioned that Apple's Boot Camp requires you to re-boot into Windoze from OSX and back. One of the best reasons for using one of the 3rd party Virtualizers like Parallels & Fusion which are apps that run in their own window on the OSX desktop.

As Danny said, either one offers a super-smooth & robust WinPC if needed.

[Arkorobotics]

Originally Posted by MWagon

While I'm sure the Mac users out there already know this, I should have mentioned that Apple's Boot Camp requires you to re-boot into Windoze from OSX and back. One of the best reasons for using one of the 3rd party Virtualizers like Parallels & Fusion which are apps that run in their own window on the OSX desktop.

As Danny said, either one offers a super-smooth & robust WinPC if needed.

Well the compactRIO is going to change everything, if I am not mistaken, LabVIEW can program/collect data from the cRIO. If you install LabVIEW on any machine running Mac OS X then your set. Right?