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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

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Am I right in saying that the next version would be consideribly cheaper to produce without the ARM chip?


Edit: I hope I'm not insulting anyone by saying this but to get an Xbox controller to plug into the adapter for sale you need to modify the connecter. Luckily, Microsoft uses a modified USB plug for all of their Xbox controllers. You can buy the adapter or make it (Soldering 4 contacts)..
The ARM chip is only one part of the cost. The major factor in the cost is the physical interface. We are taking data and converting it into analog and digital output. This is a very unusual thing to have to do. The logical way to interface to the O/I would be through a serial port or SPI. If all that was required was serial com, the Chicklets cost would be reduced significantly.

We do have hardware that does this. We will be releasing it after the FIRST season.

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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

i think our kit included the USB controller port. maybe i'm mistaken but i'm pretty sure we have this
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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

Anybody thinking of PS3 6-axis controller to drive robot...or is it just me? -_-
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Re: USB Joystick adaptor is here!

I know that this adapter is for the purpose of hooking the computer to the robot with a computer that doesn't have a serial port (or a convienient one anyway), but has anyone explored the idea of actually using this for a joystick? I have this totally awesome joystick with throttle and stuff...
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Re: USB Joystick adaptor is here!

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I know that this adapter is for the purpose of hooking the computer to the robot with a computer that doesn't have a serial port (or a convienient one anyway), but has anyone explored the idea of actually using this for a joystick? I have this totally awesome joystick with throttle and stuff...
You must be confused. Please read this thread. This is for connecting USB joysticks to the OI and not for any other purpose.
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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

Mike,

Love the new USB chicklet. How do we read the bits from wheel and aux for buttons 5-12 using easyC?

Thanks

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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

That is a good question. I think Adam from Intellitek would be the best person to answer that question. I am not familiar with easy C. I have sent a link to this thread to him.
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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

Hey here is a program that will show you what the chicklet is returning.



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Love the new USB chicklet. How do we read the bits from wheel and aux for buttons 5-12 using easyC?

Thanks

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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

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A device that converts the operator interface 15pin joystick ports, into a USB host, now exists. The device is called USB_chicklet. Check it out at www.crosstheroadelectronics.com. Also please provide feedback about our new website.
Hey, I got a question.
Does that USB chicklet work on PS3 or PS2 controllers? On its display, it said that it can only work on X-Box 360. Also, is it legal to use it if it did work?
Thank you in advance.

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Hey, I got a question.
Does that USB chicklet work on PS3 or PS2 controllers? On its display, it said that it can only work on X-Box 360. Also, is it legal to use it if it did work?
Thank you in advance.

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For those wishing to use a PS2 controller, I suggest you check out this supported device:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...CONTENTID=6951

Layout looks familiar, eh? You can find these on eBay for around $13, shipping included. I believe Mike C. claims the action on these sticks is very repeatable and reliable.

Some may still see value in finding a way to make the PS2 controller work with the chicklet, since so many people already own PS2 controllers. In order for this to work, however, the community would have to identify a standard PS2 to USB adapter device that everyone agreed to purchase and use, and someone would have to pay the Chicklet guys $25 and send them a PS2 controller/USB adapter combo so they can determine if that arrangement is compatible with their device and program the Chicklet firmware to recognize it.

Since you'd have to buy something anyway, and the PS2-esque Logitech controllers are readily available online, I suggest people consider purchasing those and forget about the PS2. It's not like Logitech is some third-rate manufacturer of gaming controllers. They usually turn out a quality product. And remember, by not having to use a PS2/USB adapter, that's one less device in the chain that can fail, and your controls won't be as cluttered.

And then there's always the XBOX360 wired controllers, you Playstation fanboys!!!
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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

I'd like to thank Mike C and the rest of the Chicklet design team for the product. We just got ours up and running, and it works really well. We got the 360 controller at 360, but then went and got the Logitech Dual Action based on Mike's reccomendation on the other thread. That one works really well for our purposes - it's nice and compact, and the axes are pretty reliable. Also, the buttons are numbered, which makes it really easy to code.

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Re: USB Joystick adapter is here!

Many thanks to Mike and Team 217 for creating a great product!

Using a Chicklet with the Logitech 3D Pro, the results are outstanding. Full forward is always exactly 254...full reverse is always exactly 0...neutral is always exactly 127!

I would highly recommend the Chicklet (and for that matter the Logitech 3D Pro, which has some really nice springs) to all teams - and that twist axis can sure come in handy
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Many thanks to Mike and Team 217 for creating a great product!

Using a Chicklet with the Logitech 3D Pro, the results are outstanding. Full forward is always exactly 254...full reverse is always exactly 0...neutral is always exactly 127!

I would highly recommend the Chicklet (and for that matter the Logitech 3D Pro, which has some really nice springs) to all teams - and that twist axis can sure come in handy
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Our team got a Logitech Dual Action gamepad like the one shown here:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...CONTENTID=6951
and we are having problems with the output values from the controller on the analog joysticks thru the USB Chiklet. For the neutral everything is 0 but going full backward or full to the left goes to 127 as expected BUT if we move the analog sticks fully forward or full to the right they output a value from 0-17. I thought it was suppose to output a value from 0-127? This is unacceptable though I have a feeling (according to my mentor) we may have a newer hardware revision of the Dual Action Gamepad because when I plug it directly into the computer it works fine. Do you have more exact specifics of which model of the Logitech Dual Action gamepad actually works as specified? Please reply ASAP as our team is currently stuck.
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Our team got a Logitech Dual Action gamepad like the one shown here:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...CONTENTID=6951
and we are having problems with the output values from the controller on the analog joysticks thru the USB Chiklet. For the neutral everything is 0 but going full backward or full to the left goes to 127 as expected BUT if we move the analog sticks fully forward or full to the right they output a value from 0-17. I thought it was suppose to output a value from 0-127? This is unacceptable though I have a feeling (according to my mentor) we may have a newer hardware revision of the Dual Action Gamepad because when I plug it directly into the computer it works fine. Do you have more exact specifics of which model of the Logitech Dual Action gamepad actually works as specified? Please reply ASAP as our team is currently stuck.
How are determining these values? Plug the OI into dashboard. What are the values (on dashboard) for x,y,aux,and wheel? Also what mode is the Chicklet in?
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