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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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With regard to the integrated IFI fuse panel that so many teams loved so much, I would like to mention the five stages of grief...
Hi, my name is Al. (Hi Al) I want the IFI panel back.
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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Hi, my name is Al. (Hi Al) I want the IFI panel back.
Hey, maybe we can start a petition for FIRST to allow the 2005 panel next year!

FIRST, I want the 2005 panel back!
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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FIRST, I want the 2005 panel back!
I brought up this exact topic at the team forum last year.

I will bring up this exact topic at the team forum this year.
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

I am not sure but maybe the status of purchase ability Here may have something to do with the legality of use.
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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I am not sure but maybe the status of purchase ability Here may have something to do with the legality of use.
Or maybe the legality of use is the reason for the status of purchase ability. Or maybe it is a combination of both. My guess (emphasis since is a guess and not fact) is that FIRST found a cheaper alternative (which is what we often ask them to do) for the kit and although many people liked the IFI panel, and they would be able to sell quite a few, the risk of not having a guaranteed 1,000+ sales made it not worth the risk.

Whatever the reason I agree that FIRST should work hard to try to get a custom fuse panel similar to the IFI fuse panel because it did work so well for FIRST teams needs.
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Whatever the reason I agree that FIRST should work hard to try to get a custom fuse panel similar to the IFI fuse panel because it did work so well for FIRST teams needs.
I disagree. Having custom parts that are useful only for FRC should be something to avoid. (I do not complain about the IFI control system, because it provides a good level of safety and guaranteed compatibility with the competition field electronics.)
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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I am not sure but maybe the status of purchase ability Here may have something to do with the legality of use.
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FIRST is the wrong place to be sending a petition. You want to petition IFI to convince them to start making them again.
No. Because of Team Update #2, things that used to be COTS are still allowed, even if they're out of production, so long as they are unmodified. The problem is that <R46> disallows all "fuse panels different from those provided in the Kit of Parts", which would include the IFI panel. I suspect that this is why IFI is no longer making them, and not the other way around. So, I would petition FIRST.
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Re: 2005 fuse panel

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Hey, maybe we can start a petition for FIRST to allow the 2005 panel next year!

FIRST, I want the 2005 panel back!
FIRST is the wrong place to be sending a petition. You want to petition IFI to convince them to start making them again.
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