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Unread 06-02-2007, 21:14
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Re: Ramp crashing down

You know, I hadn't thought of that. One thing to consider is that the carpet probably dampens the motion a teeny bit; We decided to "let gravity do the work" on ours based on the fact that we thought they would survive the fall, but I hadn't considered the refs' point of view. How else besides gas springs have people been slowing the fall of their ramps? Anything especially low tech/lightweight?

Also, I haven't been spending as much time as I'd like on cd the past few days and I know a lot of videos have gone up. If anybody knows of any videos showing ramps actually being deployed, I would give you exactly five brownie points for pointing me to the link.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

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If anybody knows of any videos showing ramps actually being deployed, I would give you exactly five brownie points for pointing me to the link.
This thread has one:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=53554

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Re: Ramp crashing down

I don't think theres anything specific in rule book about it.
In this kind of situation, lets just use Common Sense. If you think its safe and not harming anything on the field or even your own robot, you're good to go.
But if you open your ramp and something is 'shooting out' (as a pin or clip), i'm not sure if thats going to be safe or not.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

You have to think the GDC knew there'd be some flopping ramps. That may be one reason why the opposing alliance has to clear your end. If they choose to stay, they get a penality - and maybe a smack in the bot. Talk about adding insult to injury!

We will make sure we know how our alliance partners plan to deploy, and will stay the heck out of the way when they do.

There should not be any personel on the field. So - I say we, "flop away" - it'll be a blast to watch.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

As long as it doesn't damage anything/anyone, it should be fine.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

Gas springs eh? Never thought of that. I was thinking something along the lines of a spring hinge. there really ought to be a rule on this written.

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Gas springs eh? Never thought of that. I was thinking something along the lines of a spring hinge. there really ought to be a rule on this written.

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Re: Ramp crashing down

Our ramps are gunna be coming down fast as well, I just hope another robot is not underneath when it happens
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Re: Ramp crashing down

Here is an inspector's viewpoint on this. If the ramp will use only gravity and not damage the field it may be used. But it will invite some close inspection in the release mechanism. If the release is a "Hair Trigger" that could be actuated while transporting or setup, it may not pass inspection. Also, what is the effect of power loss on the release? Think about the safety of everyone that will be around the robot at a competition.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

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Here is an inspector's viewpoint on this. If the ramp will use only gravity and not damage the field it may be used. But it will invite some close inspection in the release mechanism. If the release is a "Hair Trigger" that could be actuated while transporting or setup, it may not pass inspection. Also, what is the effect of power loss on the release? Think about the safety of everyone that will be around the robot at a competition.
Excellent points... Teams may want to add "transport locks" to hold the ramp in place. This could be as simple as a rope tied around it.

I also encourage teams to add a little padding on the end of the ramp that will smack the ground to help prevent damage to the floor.
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Re: Ramp crashing down

This question was addressed in this thread in the official FIRST Q&A System. Gravity-based deployment of ramps is permitted, as long as it is done in a safe manner and does not cause damage to the field. If you are using this type of system, print out a copy of the official Q&A answer and take it with you to the competition, just in case there is a question about it during inspection.

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