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Unread 07-02-2007, 19:48
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

Out of curiousity, where did you buy the pinion gears that are mounted to each CIM?
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Unread 07-02-2007, 19:50
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

The pinions are the pinions from the previous years KOP, also available from AndyMark in the same size, only de-hubbed.
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

I love how you use aluminum hex stock as your gearbox spacers. Also, I'm guessing you're using this gearbox to direct drive your wheels, right?
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

Nice and shiney, I like it. I look forward to seeing that gearbox attached to your acual robot. I looks like it would make for a strong drive train.
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

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The pinions are the pinions from the previous years KOP, also available from AndyMark in the same size, only de-hubbed.
Doesn't that make them illegal as per <R28>?

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Specifically, it doesn't satisfy the conditions set forth in the second bullet, given that the gearboxes from which it came and their components were made for FIRST.

If so, at the very least, it's an easy fix. The gears available from AndyMark lack only the hub and set screw but are otherwise the same, so it's a quick switch. Hold them in place with some 5/16" self-locking retaining clips and you're in business.
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Looks good. What's the weight with the motors and piston?
I also can't figure out where the chains are supposed to go. I should probably go take a look at your model again.
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

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Specifically, it doesn't satisfy the conditions set forth in the second bullet, given that the gearboxes from which it came and their components were made for FIRST.

If so, at the very least, it's an easy fix. The gears available from AndyMark lack only the hub and set screw but are otherwise the same, so it's a quick switch. Hold them in place with some 5/16" self-locking retaining clips and you're in business.
You can buy those pinion gears from Boston Gear (with the hub), so it shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

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You can buy those pinion gears from Boston Gear (with the hub), so it shouldn't be an issue.
Provided you key them somehow, this also a viable solution.

In any case, the gearboxes themselves look good. I like symmetry in design a lot and most gearboxes seem to be asymmetrical.
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Doesn't that make them illegal as per <R28>?
I thought about this... not sure what we'll end up doing about it.

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Looks good. What's the weight with the motors and piston?
I also can't figure out where the chains are supposed to go. I should probably go take a look at your model again.
The middle wheel will have two sprockets on the sides of the wheel, which will run chain to the other wheels. See here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/26243
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I thought about this... not sure what we'll end up doing about it.
I bought 14T gears from Motion Industries. I also bought an 8mm reamer and a 2mm broach set to modify them to the CIM.
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

It Looks Sweet. What are the gear ratios?
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

I like how you faced out the inside of the gearbox plate How heavy is it?
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Re: pic: 114 2 speed Gearbox

The total weight for the whole assembly, with motors and shifters and all that is too heavy... 10 pounds too heavy, to be exact.

But I'm really happy with the performance. It shifts nicely, with a small quirk on the left side (we're fixing that in programming).
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