Rookie Realization

[T3_1565]

yeah I am trying to stress this with the majority of my team because they all are rookies as well. The few of us that aren't rookies (the 3 Leaders) have pretty much been the only ones to stay after school on weekends etc. Us three learned from our mistakes the very first year this was put together at our school, yet for some reason our team doesn't want to follow suit. Go figure, our robot is pretty much built by us three I wish the rest of the team would understand... oh well its still WICKED FUN!!!

[David]

yeah my time is half rookies and it ends up at six everyday there are five people left in the shop and all the rookies have gone home. I wonder how many will leave early tomorrow, we are staying until 11 then a few of us may have to work on it at a mentor's house until even later. Thankfully saturday morning is programmers only, so the build team gets to sleep until the afternoon. All this is because my team finally realized that we want to finish well before the ship date not 2 hours before.

[T3_1565]

yeah no kidding, its always nice to be done before the shipper comes ( we were building some of our bot in the shipping crate lol) it will definatly give more time for debugging, but most of the time rookies on my team at least have the attitude of "Well it's 6 weeks, we can get it done in that time no problem" and we end up building most of our bot in the pit area during practice rounds lol. Thankfully there is a couple of us this time to get the job done beforehand lol

[David]

Originally Posted by T3_1565

we end up building most of our bot in the pit area during practice rounds lol.

last year we had to cut five pounds and put a new shooter on. needless to say we only made two practice matches. lets hope that doesn't happen again. it also doesn't help that things take a few days to ship so something ordered on Thursday might not come in until tuesday

[Justin M.]

It's nuts how differently you think from the kickoff, then you do at the beginning of the 6th week. Right after the kickoff you think "we've got 6 weeks or 2 months to build a robot - no biggie.". Then when you are staring at an assembled, but non moving robot monday of the 6th week, you think the complete opposite. Then you realize you need to build a crate.

[lancerbotics]

If it wasn't for the veteran team that is working with my team we would not be able to get a bot built for this year's regional. I have only one student so far who has totally bought in to the project but his availability is very limited.

We are in the stage when everything comes together in a couple of days. All subteams are close to being done, then we let the programmers have a field day with our two camera setup.

Every year we stress about deadlines, and every year we make them. It's simple a matter of making a list at the beginning, and working as hard as you can (5 days a week until 9, the other days until 6) to make things happen. FIRST is great to teach deadlines, because it takes them to an extreme which impresses the importance onto teams.

Good luck finishing up your bots, and I look forward to seeing you all at the competitions!

[Matt Gardner]

Lol, my whole team is rookies, literally. None of us have worked on a FIRST team before, I don't know if our mentor has even been to any past events, lol. We are also a small team of about 10 students, so needless to say the work is sometimes slow. We are lucky that we have one veteren team in the area who can send us replacement parts and give us some guidance (or lend a mentor every so often) We have realized that a deciding factor in this competition is time management, and have worked through most weekends and stay past 5 or 6 every night. If we can't get into the school, we work outside (building the rack in -20C was an experience, thank goodness for hot drinks), and lately we've been pulling 9pm work sessions. Our typical day now is 7-8:20am robot work, period one class, work on the robot through our second period and lunch, period 3 and 4 classes, and then robot until 9. Actually, today I picked up a pizza and then went to the grocery store to buy drinks, and both cashiers knew who the food was for...is that a good or bad thing? And whoever mentioned the mark drop, it's very true. We can all eventually say with a straight face that a robot once took over our lives...

Anyway, we're hoping to get done on time, I figured out how to do autonomous today (I think) and we just need to, umm,
- finish/mount the arm and manipulator
- cover our ramps
- Put on all the parts that need putting on for autonomous
- Program autonomous (fun!)
- build our operator console
- build the shipping crate
- drive 2 hours to drop off the crate
- party until the competition
- (and by party I mean get our tshirts and banners made, then try to find money for a hotel...)

Well then, good luck to you all, we're going to need it, lol (or lots of energy drinks, hmmmm energy drink...) But I think we'll be ready, I just hope Waterloo is ready for Rambotics...

[sanddrag]

I like to say we are in our 7th rookie year. Sigh.

[LightWaves1636]

lol, that's awesome. Rookies, in honesty, just don't get it, so it's up to the veterans to help guide and push. Our rookies made the realization today I think, some of them anyway. This made me think of one rookie in particular though, on one of our first build days, he was the only rookie who stayed, he said out loudly "Six weeks is pleanty of time, they've given us so much time". We just said he was very optimistic.(Right now he's seen the ship date).

[Donut]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

I like to say we are in our 7th rookie year. Sigh.

That statement sounds familiar. Every year the same mistakes are made again, and we have the same trouble pressing the importance of working more early on to the new members. Some are coming around now, but others...

[KathieK]

Ah, project planning... something that many teams forget to do.

There are a number of resources for FIRST teams that can help with this, but one that comes to mind quickly is MOEmentum (http://www.moe365.org/moementum.php) - it breaks down those 6 weeks for you so you can keep to some kind of plan and finish on time. Check it out and remember it for next year!

[waiakea11]

Our team is still a rookie team but a couple of nights ago we finally realized how much work we put into our bot and how close we are to the competition date....it finally struck us that the past few weeks have gone by so fast...It seems like yesteray that we had just gone to the shop from the kickoff to brainstorm ideas for our bot...

[Danielle H]

Here at 393 we meet everyday, Monday-Friday from 5:30pm - 8:30pm. We've split up into sub-teams, and we're all working on a different aspect of the team and the competition. We had a goal of being done, I think, by the beginning of Week 5 so that we could test for 2 weeks before we shipped.

But, here we sit, at the end of Week 5... still not done. It's not really a rookie problem, but it's more a problem that our team took their sweet time (the first three weeks) coming up with a design, and then still had to order materials.

Advice to teams: Have as much of your materials donated as you can, as get as many materials donated to you during the off-season as you can. This way, you don't lose money if you don't use the material, and you also have a pluthera of materials to choose from when it's time to start building. And... you don't have to wait for materials...

[AndyB]

It really is amazing what one season and one regional can do to a new kid on a team. It really lets them know what it's all about and gives them a chance to see just how big the FIRST world really is.

We try to instill this feeling from day one by showing some videos of old competitions and by keeping "spirit" high. We encourage kids to contact other teams and try to bring them along if we ever have to stop by another team to ask for help or see if they need any.