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How did you make your team insignia?

i dont know how to do this. can someone please help me?

i am trying to make a team logo for our team.

i was planning on using our school logo(the trojan headhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trojan_top.gif)

and entangling the first logo onto the crescent shaped thing on the top of the trojan head.

i tried to use paint but it became a pain because i couldnt get the first logo to get onto the trojan head right.

what do you suggest?
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

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i dont know how to do this. can someone please help me?

i am trying to make a team logo for our team.

i was planning on using our school logo(the trojan headhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trojan_top.gif)

and entangling the first logo onto the crescent shaped thing on the top of the trojan head.

i tried to use paint but it became a pain because i couldnt get the first logo to get onto the trojan head right.

what do you suggest?
I suggest you rethink your team logo, since the design you are considering violates the FIRST logo standards.

Standards are found
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...prehensive.pdf
and
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...QuickStart.pdf
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

really? where can i find the first logo standards

oops sorry i didnt notice the links
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

If you need help designing/revamping a team logo... I'de be glad to lend my assistance.

Or if you would feel better doing it yourself, The GIMP is a wonderful free graphics tool.
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

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I suggest you rethink your team logo, since the design you are considering violates the FIRST logo standards.

Standards are found
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...prehensive.pdf
and
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...QuickStart.pdf
Not so fast. I'll refer everyone to Page 23 of the comprehensive guide, the portion of the document referring to decorative graphic elements. I quote:

Quote:
Graphic elements may be used as decorative
components in various communications, but
should be combined with one of our standard
logos. In exceptional situations, such as event
banners for example, or other “under the tent”
applications, graphic elements used alone can
add a festive air. Graphic elements are not logo
versions, and therefore must never replace
our official mark.
Now, don't consider this by any means official, but I interpret that last sentence to mean that decorative graphic elements (which is basically the triangle, circle, and square without the FIRST lettering) are not subject to the logo standards. My suggestion would be to have a mentor email FRC Team Support (frcteams@usfirst.org) for an actual answer.

As to your original question, most people would recommend Adobe Illustrator for its ability to produce vector images, which does wonders for when you go to get things printed. (In essence, vector images define where a line should be, as opposed to raster images, which defines each individual dot. Vector images trade off ridiculously small detail for small file sizes and a great degree of scalability, allowing your logo to look the same on a pen or a banner without any jagged edges.)

If you want to get your feet wet with vector graphics, I'd recommend looking at the free (as in open-source) program InkScape. Not quite as fully-featured as Adobe Illustrator, but you can't beat the price.
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

Above all else, do not use MSPaint or Photoshop or any flavor of raster-based image editing software.

Use Adobe Illustrator or Macromedia Fireworks to create vector-based artwork. You'll have a much easier time having things printed from your logo if you create it based on standards of the graphic design industry.
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

If you have Photoshop available to you, it has a very intuitive vector drawing tool called the pen tool that is much easier to use than the one in illustrator. I would suggest tracing your logo at the current available resolution, and then increasing the size of the image to however big you want it. Raster images are fine, a lot of companies just require that they be on a 20ft canvas, but that is hard to do on a lot of consumer PC's. So as Madison said, try to stick with vectors; and work with small vectors at first.

If you are looking for logo inspiration or photoshop vector tutorials, Worth1000.com is a wonderful resource.

Illustratorworld.com is basically it's alternative for Adobe Illustrator.

Or if you want to stick to the free GIMP software, A Vector Sig tutorial can be found here: http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/...sage.id=594359
and adapted for your needs.

And lastly, if you would like to use the Inkscape, a very easy to use set of tutorials can be found at this website: http://k12edcom.org/?q=node/17
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Re: How did you make your team insignia?

Believe it or not, our logo was originally drawn in AutoCAD. One day, a bored team member was sitting in technical drawing and playing with a crescent wrench. Since he didn't know how to use any real graphic software, he drew a very simple 2D sketch that the team loved.
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