2007 Great Lakes Regional, Best Ever?

[Jimmy Cao]

Originally Posted by KTorak

I'm curious as to how last years rule read, but Ron Webb said last year that if you cannot make it out of the other teams zone (offense/defense stuff), that you could hit the E-STOP, thus, your robot would not be penalized for being in the wrong zone.

Last year, only enabled robots counted as being across the line. Therefore a disabled robot is not counted, and their alliance will not need a backbot.

[Aidan F. Browne]

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=1532

[Allison K]

Here are the rankings as of the end of the day Friday...

1 - 1114
2 - 1213
3 - 573
4 - 326
5 - 67
6 - 308
7- 494
8 - 1674
9 - 1189
10 - 503
11 - 453
12 - 322
13 - 1503
14 - 226
15 - 1596
16 - 894
17 - 70
18 - 1504
19 - 68
20 - 815
21 - 1023
22 - 1
23 - 279
24 - 818
25 - 903
26 - 201
27 - 65
28 - 1941
29 - 448
30 - 2137
31 - 313
32 - 1286
33 - 240
34 - 469
35 - 1322
36 - 470
37 - 33
38 - 862
39 - 1711
40 - 2163
41 - 280
42 - 830
43 - 1528
44 - 57
45 - 1254
46 - 1015
47 - 548
48 - 440
49 - 1701
50 - 519
51 - 1188
52 - 910
53 - 1549
54 - 835
55 - 451
56 - 1243
57 - 1896
58 - 406
59 - 66

[KTorak]

Interesting. NO teams are undefeated, mainly because 1114 was on our alliance during the 0 - 0 tie...

[Tomasz Bania]

Originally Posted by Frenchie

not the high score of the season yet, but sounds like you guys are working on it

Francois.

I didn't say it was the highest of the season, but it was the highest for GLR (by 2-3x). We had a rough last 2 days. Thursday, everything that could go wrong went wrong. Almost every component broke or was wired wrong during practice rounds. We practically rewired our entire robot on practice day (we wired our robot in about 2 hours before ship) so that fixed most of our problems. Today, they snapped our arm so we had to fix that. After lunch, we just started dominating. Still, our arm broke once today in the 256-0 match (which is why we only hung 4) and decided not to risk it and left the last one for our partners. 1114 was great during that match, but I didn't know about their robot failing until I read it here. Anyways, today was fun and challenging. At least our robot finally proved itself. We thank 1114 and 280 for the great alliance.

Tommorrow should be fun. I might paint my hair blue tommorrow, not sure yet, and i'm definately bringing that stressball you gave me last year in Detroit, Frenchie.

Good Luck!

Tomasz Bania

[Frenchie]

(I might need the stress ball )

It appears many team still need time to tune details (bigger or smaller) on their robots. Team 469 makes no exception to the rule (as many have seen).

1114, 67, 201, 33, Frog Force, Martians and a couple others stood out for being able to get their already great robots operational fairly quickly and take the head of the tournament.

For now, great lakes highlights how crucial speed is for now. I have seldom seen any defensive placement of ringers/spoilers. Matches rather turn into big races where the winner is the one who can put the most ringers on.

Defense is sometimes efficient (815 managed to push 1114 a bit for example), but I did not see it turn the tide of a match.

Ramp has been ignored by most. This is due to ramp bot being too narrow/short/steep or other robots too low to the ground. The abundance of mechanum or omni drive doesn't help: those appear to be weak when it comes to climbing a ramp. There is still hope for those of us that rely on ramps: if defensive placement of ringers occurs, ramp might have more of an impact on score, counterbalancing the time it takes to get an alliance 12" high

Hope y'all understood what I've been trying to explain. One more day!

Francois.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by CardcaptorRLH85

Someone should have thought of tossing this one to the Q & A before the regionals. I remember that in years past, if you were in an area that was not allowed and became disabled you stopped receiving penalties. If you can't move then well, you can't move...

Originally Posted by Richard

They did.

Originally Posted by Aidan F. Browne

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=1532

And as Dave said much earlier:

Originally Posted by dlavery

Rules from prior years DO NOT APPLY to this year!

Originally Posted by GDC, in the response that two of use cited above

If a robot enters the opponent's Home Zone and then becomes disabled, it would be the responsibility of the disabled robot's alliance partners to push the disabled robot out of the opponent's Home Zone to avoid accruing penalties.

[BRosser314]

Originally Posted by Bongle

Did 1114 break sometime on friday afternoon? I noticed they scored 0 points in a match (as did their opponents), and that seemed very un-1114ish of them.

I believe it was a penalty problem, yet again

[BRosser314]

Originally Posted by Tomasz Bania

No comment Needed...

Match 49 3:31 PM Red: 818,1114, and 280 vs. Blue: 451, 1701, and 57. Final Score Red:256 Blue:0.

A team member has video of the match so I hope to post it soon.

By far a awesome match, im not sure how many exactly each scored but i know 1114 did alot of work, Great BOt 1114

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

1114's ground came out of the power distribution block, causing them to become disabled. They then e-stopped. This happened roughly 35 seconds into the match, while they were in the opponents home zone. The 30 points of penalties negated their alliances row of 4, causing a 0-0 tie.

Lesson for all of us: check frequently to be sure that wires are held tightly in their clamps on that power distribution block.

Even a great robot like 1114 can't score, or even avoid penalties, when it is immobilized by an electrical disconnect.

[Tomasz Bania]

Originally Posted by BRosser314

By far a awesome match, im not sure how many exactly each scored but i know 1114 did alot of work, Great BOt 1114

From what I can remember, 818 scored 4 , 1114 scored 4 , and 280 was a great defensive bot. Both 818 and 1114 pulled back after completeing the ring to set up in start positions. I think 280 was still doing defense on the field, probably making the opponents score 0. For the people that think we did this (not mentioned yet, but I think it might come) that this was because of weak opponents, that was completely not true. 1701 for example had a great robot. All 3 of the opposing alliance teams were shoving us around but we still ended up winning. Great match!

Good Luck

Tomasz Bania

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by KTorak

Interesting. NO teams are undefeated, mainly because 1114 was on our alliance during the 0 - 0 tie...

Actually, 1114 is undefeated. A tie is not a loss (aka a defeat). They just don't have a perfect record.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Any videos/pictures from the event?

[T3_1565]

yeah video of this would be great. The webcast was unavavlible today so I wasn't able to watch, and a lot of these bots are coming up to waterloo as well. I need an early scouting process lol

[KTorak]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Actually, 1114 is undefeated. A tie is not a loss (aka a defeat). They just don't have a perfect record.

Understandable. I just more or less meant that I was surprised that a team didnt have a perfect record...usually one or two manage to do so at GLR.

I know the only loss 67 had was with us due to a penalty for throwing a tube during autonomous and the fact that only my team scored because 67 got blocked horribly and other alliance partner was a ramp who didn't move at all.