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[FVC]: 3053's Robot

This is 3053's robot that competed in the PA tournament. We were second seed and ended up in the Runner-Up Alliance. We won the Inspire Award, so expect to be seeing an improved version of this robot at the World Championship.

It's a very simple but effective and reliable robot. It sucks five softballs into the tread system, the arm rotates, and it scores into the high goal. We scored 22 softballs several matches, and rarely less than 17. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them - I doubt there's any question I wouldn't be willing to answer. If for some reason the answer is "super secret" (nothing comes to mind), I'll get back to you after the World Championship.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

Its a very good robot =D
Medium pickup speed, fast scoring.

We faced you guys in the finals. You didn't lose because of your robot, but mainly because your drivers were unprepared strategically and psychologically. All you guys have to do is work on your driving, and your set for Atlanta.

lol, in the last match of the finals you guys scored 23 balls in the high goal, but we got the atlas ball and won 107-69 =)
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

Wow - this is very similar to our robot (FVC 3228). Our box/arm is only 1 tank tread wide though. How do you move the balls up and down the box? What do you use as a manipulator to pick up the balls? We were part of the winning alliance from the Florida Regional in December, so I look forward to seeing this machine in person in Atlanta.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

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Wow - this is very similar to our robot (FVC 3228). Our box/arm is only 1 tank tread wide though. How do you move the balls up and down the box? What do you use as a manipulator to pick up the balls? We were part of the winning alliance from the Florida Regional in December, so I look forward to seeing this machine in person in Atlanta.
The balls are moved up and down the "box" by the tank treads, this is also what is used to pick the balls up.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

As team leader of FVC #3228, I would like to add to our mentor's question.

For our robot, we had to put zipties on our single tank tread because the tank tread couldn't apply enough pressure to the balls to prevent them from slipping back down. If we lowered the height of the tank treads to add more pressure, then the balls couldnt get past the manipulator (front of the tank tread that had the wheel)..

Any secrets there? Or just extra tight tank treads?

Also, I was wondering about the bumper switch on the top of the tower, what is it's purpose?

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As team leader of FVC #3228, I would like to add to our mentor's question.

For our robot, we had to put zipties on our single tank tread because the tank tread couldn't apply enough pressure to the balls to prevent them from slipping back down. If we lowered the height of the tank treads to add more pressure, then the balls couldnt get past the manipulator (front of the tank tread that had the wheel)..

Any secrets there? Or just extra tight tank treads?

Also, I was wondering about the bumper switch on the top of the tower, what is it's purpose?
No secret at all, if you look at the picture closely you will notice the tank treads do in fact have zip ties on them. So it works just like yours. A suggestion: our extensive experimenting with tank treads has taught us that super tight tank treads cause nothing but bent drive shafts...as in they don't work.

The bump switch is used to limit the motion of the arm, it is used in autonomous mode. The standoff beam slides over the bump switch, pressing it down, when it reaches a certain height.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

What's the gear ratio on the arm?
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What's the gear ratio on the arm?
The gear ratio shown in that photograph is 1:5.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

We just changed the gear ratio to 1:7. This allowed us to drop 2 of the four arm motors and move them to the drivetrain to increase maneuverability.
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Re: [FVC]: 3053's Robot

Wow-I'm surprised that a 7:1 ratio can provide enough torque to lift that arm. I'm guessing it's aluminum - correct? Even still, I would have guessed twice that ratio.
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Wow-I'm surprised that a 7:1 ratio can provide enough torque to lift that arm. I'm guessing it's aluminum - correct? Even still, I would have guessed twice that ratio.
The arm is made of aluminum and was designed to be as minimalist as possible to keep a low weight. The weight of the softballs is the more determing factor. Five softballs is approximately 1.9lbs.
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