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Re: Week 3 Impressions of Rack n' Roll
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With all of the defense played at detroit, auto mode helped out. It gave the alliance 1 more keeper to add to the final score. Although this year there isnt a whole lot of a point to making auto mode (it only awards you 2 points, unlike other years when you would get a bonus for winning auto). In the end it gave those alliances an advantage over the other alliance.
Yes the first 15 seconds are the most important, in our allaince (469,302,1502) we could put up about 3 in the first 15 seconds untill the defense was coming at you. The only default i see in this game is the points awarded for ramps. Like one of our team members said "everyone is going to make a ramp because their easy points so its not worth adding on our robot". The ramp bonus is making this game more defensive, because teams can go and push and pin the scoring teams until the last 30 seconds then get on a ramp and win. We have all seen this happen time after time. |
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What about pushing the pushers? Some of the best rushing offenses in the NFL have great fullbacks lead blocking for them.....
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Strategy, Alliance compatability, and teamwork are essential this year. |
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So far in this thread, I hear alot of whining, and not enough chatter about how to improve, how to make this game better.
I think this game is getting better as it progresses, still not the best FIRST has mad...by far. But its becoming a little better to watch. I actually saw a QF match this weekend that had half the rack full. I was astonished. |
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It seemed to me that /EDIT/ QUARTER final play was more fun to watch than final play. The matches weren't blown out either. As you said Corey, there were many tubes on the rack from both alliances. interesting... Last edited by henryBsick : 19-03-2007 at 15:23. |
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Are you talking about any regional inparticular or just overall?
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With more and more defense being played, and with more strategic placement of tubes and spoilers, the incremental exponential value of a keeper will be much more important than its 2 point illusion. |
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One thing we realized at SVR this year is that it is not possible to win a match if there is only one scoring robot on your alliance and the other alliance has a ramp bot. That was the case with us a lot. After we racked up 290 points in the first match of the regional with team 100, they just double or sometimes triple teamed us so we couldnt score then got 60 points for ramps. Our alliance did great trying to keep the opposing alliance away from us but 3 robots coming at us is to much to defend against. one thing I did notice about rough defense was in the first round of quarter finals we attempted to score and 190 pushed us into the rack and ended up spinning the rack about 90 degrees. I was heated and insisted it was a pinning penalty because I couldn't move but I went to the head ref and asked him to clarify. He said that as long as we have a keeper in our possession the other alliance could pin us against the rack as long as they wanted. I thought it was a wrong call but I didnt argue and ended up having to drop many ringers in the match to follow im order to get 190 to stop pinning us... We lost, but props to 190, that was the most intense defense I have ever experienced in 3 years of driving.
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I don't, however, agree with the ref's explanation. Rule <G39> is a little ambiguous as to WHO exactly is immune, but the way I read it was "you may pin another robot between you and the rack if you are attempting to hang a ringer" as opposed to "you may be pinned if you are attempting to hang a ringer", as the refs called it. Maybe this should be clarified on the Q&A about exactly which robot is immune... |
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Specifcly UTC, congrats btw. I saw most of that regional via webcast but I think the same is true for midwest; I am not sure how far in to elims I started watching matches there though. I am waiting for archived webcast of some more regionals before I make a couple of week 4 Boston predictions based on many things, including what happened at UTC primarily because of their relative location.
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When he says "Shut out" I believe he was saying it in the sense of the alliance having a final score of 0.
Seen Here: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=1342 and Here: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=1344 Edit: I would also like to know what matches your team keeps bringing up where things were "not called". Last edited by BoyWithCape195 : 19-03-2007 at 15:48. |
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