Ramps extending outside of the home zone

[freestylemotox]

Originally Posted by Karthik

This was not the case at the Great Lakes Regional. Teams were only penalized if 72"x72" were outside of the end zone. Teams who were slightly outside the endzone were never penalized.

Can anyone who attended other regionals describe how this rule was enforced?

at detroit if your robot was even a hair outside of the box then you got a penalty. It was a little harsh but i guess im not the judge

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by freestylemotox

at detroit if your robot was even a hair outside of the box then you got a penalty. It was a little harsh but i guess im not the judge

True (although "an inch" should probably replace "a hair" - you did have to be far enough out so that it could clearly be seen.) However, if you accidentally deployed early, you would get the penalty but would not get a disable/dq if you retreated to the home zone immediately and didn't interfere with any opponents on the way.

[Wayne Doenges]

Here's is what I found in the FIRST Q&A:

Assume the following condition:
Our bot deploys a platform and ramp for another bot to climb. Our bot is in the home zone but part of our ramp extends past the home zone line. A bot climbs the ramp and sits on the platform. That bot, and the platform, are clearly within the home zone.

Does the bot on the platform score the points even though our ramp extends outside of the home zone?

Can a robot that is supporting the raised robot be partially out of the home zone as long as the raised robot is within the home zone?

Answer:
Under the provisions of Rule <G56>, each robot entirely within the Home Zone at the end of the match may be eligible for bonus points (depending upon the height off the floor that the robot is raised). If the robot is being supported off the floor by another robot, there is no requirement that the supporting robot be entirely within the Home Zone.

So it's legal to be outside the HZ as long as the supported bots are entirely in the HZ.

[Joohoo]

At FLR the same thing happened our alliance partner accientally deployed their lifter outside of the HZ and they were penalized.

We also were penalized when the opposing alliance pushed their lifter out side of the HZ. Was that seen anywhere else?

[TD78]

Originally Posted by Wayne Doenges

Answer:
Under the provisions of Rule <G56>, each robot entirely within the Home Zone at the end of the match may be eligible for bonus points (depending upon the height off the floor that the robot is raised). If the robot is being supported off the floor by another robot, there is no requirement that the supporting robot be entirely within the Home Zone.

So it's legal to be outside the HZ as long as the supported bots are entirely in the HZ.

So while the bonus points for the supported robot count, wouldn't the ramp robot who is outside the HZ collect penalty violations as well (if they are >72" - from what I have seen, any sort of action by such a robot that breaks the plane of the HZ has been flagged with a penalty)? It doesn't say in that Q&A response that it was legal for robots to be outside the HZ, just that the bonus points for the robots being supported count...