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Yes, and I would be willing to record the regional feed 30 16.13%
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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Please bear with me... As a computer nerd who started in the 70's it takes me a bit to absorb all the latest trends... like video archiving.

But my experience tells me that unless these is a consistant search method to locate these competiton videos, they'll just get lost in the noise of Britney's FIRST drink after rehab.

Has anyone considered how to make these videos stand out? Is there a special keyword that has been assigned to make them easy to locate?

I tried looking on Google for regional videos and could find nothing usefull....

How would a novice like me go about finding the neddle in the haystack if I wanted to locate the official Chesapeake regional videos?
You can look at The Blue Alliance Match Archives, or "TBAtv", located at www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv . You can look at videos and scores by event, or search for a team number in the top right hand corner. You can watch the video in streaming flash right on the page (like YouTube), or download the source file directly. Have fun!
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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SOAP is "Sigmac@t Opponent Analysis Program," and is, more informally, the nice group of folks who host archived videos of FIRST competitions. They provide the hosting space and bandwidth required to maintain an archive of these matches in a single place.

http://soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/movies/

It doesn't appear that they have Chesapeake videos available yet.
I thought SOAP stood for "Scouting Opposition and Alliance Partners" ...

Oh well, its a FANTASTIC resource either way ...
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

I was just shown a video from the Manchester Regional urging people to upload everything to Youtube from Dean and some Youtube guy.
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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I was just shown a video from the Manchester Regional urging people to upload everything to Youtube from Dean and some Youtube guy.
It belongs in another thread but I'm too lazy- Does this request by DK and YT not totally sit well with anyone else? Does every match really belong on YT, or just promo stuff like Chairman's submissions, animations, etc...

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

It's very likely that Team 578 is going to record and parse the phili regional because there is a strong interest in doing it. On monday I can tell you the final decision.
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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It belongs in another thread but I'm too lazy- Does this request by DK and YT not totally sit well with anyone else? Does every match really belong on YT, or just promo stuff like Chairman's submissions, animations, etc...

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It is too hard to search youtube effectively, especially the way it is organized and returns mass search results. I think a more searchable useable community-maintained site is more appropriate. This is what The Blue Alliance is trying to do, and I think between us and SOAP we have the FIRST Match hosting stuff covered.

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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It belongs in another thread but I'm too lazy- Does this request by DK and YT not totally sit well with anyone else? Does every match really belong on YT, or just promo stuff like Chairman's submissions, animations, etc...

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Hey if Dean wants it there he can copy/paste the files to his harddrive and upload all the files to Youtube. He's free to do so. They're there for the taking.
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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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It is too hard to search youtube effectively, especially the way it is organized and returns mass search results. I think a more searchable useable community-maintained site is more appropriate. This is what The Blue Alliance is trying to do, and I think between us and SOAP we have the FIRST Match hosting stuff covered.

True, FIRSTers will always do a better job than 3rd party because we know what we need / want.

Scoring system db integration is something we've been requesting for years...

I will have the ear of FIRST HQ this w/e and we'll see what sort of co-opertition is possible.
Wish me well...

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

I personally like being able to get directly to a specific year and specific regional with only one click. I dont have to search for the specific terminology then hope youtube pulls up the right videos. SOAP is SOOO much easier.

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

I can provide webspace for some clips, although I don't have the hardware to do much else.

My webhost is very generous with webspace ("Put the server to use"). It doesn't have impressive bandwidth, but it works. (I do prefer footage from 904's matches, since they are my team, but I'll host anything.)

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

I am uploading the waterloo footage as I cut it up, its only the archive from the webcast right now but we also have most of it recorded to dvd that will take a little longer to split up. For GTR next week we have a dedicated computer that is going to archive the video at a higher resolution than waterloo.

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Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..

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I had looked at the matches 1-19 that were posted earlier of UTC, and some were wrong. The scoring system said "match 19", but it didn't correspond to the 19th match indicated by FIRST's online match results. I'm not sure which one is correct...
I just saw this.. I believe that when the scorekeeper makes a change to the database, it gets sent at the time the change is made, so it may be out of sync with the match schedule. That is, not having the match numbers shown on the web display is annoying, and will cause confusion.
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BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional 	- J. Norris (record/parse)
NASA / VCU Regional 			- Rob2713g (record), chris31 (record), parsers: Jonathan Norris, Pavan, Tom B.
New Jersey Regional 			- Alex Burman (record/parse)
Pacific Northwest Regional 		- M. Krass (record/parse)
St. Louis Regional 			- Dave Flowerday (record/parse), hill (record)
Arizona Regional 			- Donut (record/parse)
Bayou Regional				- DeepWater (record/parse)
Brazilian Pilot 			- Manoel (record/parse)
Finger Lakes Regional 			- Koko Ed (record), Ellery (parse)
Florida Regional 			- SOAP (record/parse)
Great Lakes Regional 			- SAV1337 (record/parse)
Los Angeles Regional 			- ay2b (record/parse)
Pittsburgh Regional 			- Noah K. (record), Tom B. (parse)
Wisconsin Regional 			- Kevin K (record/parse)
Boilermaker Regional 			- Mike AA (record/parse)
Chesapeake Regional 			- Alex Burman(record/parse)
Detroit Regional 			- 
Greater Kansas City Regional 		- 
Midwest Regional 			- Dave Flowerday (record/parse)
Peachtree Regional 			- 
Silicon Valley Regional 		- M. Krass (record/parse)
UTC Connecticut Regional 		- Art Dutra (record/parse)
New York City Regional 			- Noah K.(record), Tom B. (parse), SOAP (record/parse)
Boston Regional 			- SOAP (record/parse)
Buckeye Regional 			- Koko Ed (record), Ellery (parse)
San Diego Regional 			- ay2b (record/parse)
Waterloo Regional 			- J. Norris (record/parse), SAV1337 (record)
GM/Technion Israel Regional 		- David55 (record/parse)
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Greater Toronto Regional 		- J. Norris (record/parse), SAV1337(record)
Las Vegas Regional 			- SOAP(record/parse)
Lone Star Regional 			- Kevin Sevcik (record/parse)
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Philadelphia Regional 			- (Click_Here) (record/parse)
SBPLI Long Island Regional 		- 
West Michigan Regional			- Mike AA (record/parse), Dave Flowerday (record/parse)
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Scoring system db integration is something we've been requesting for years...
All we need is an XML or CSV feed from the scoring DB. The data is all available anyway, but its all put up in an inconsistent and hard to parse way.
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All we need is an XML or CSV feed from the scoring DB. The data is all available anyway, but its all put up in an inconsistent and hard to parse way.
O/T:

Do you know if the DBs from the regionals are online somewhere?

I was going to run some numbers on the scores, but with the equal share of ramp points, rack points, and how different the exponential scoring is this year, as opposed to the "1 or 3 per" last year, the numbers would make even less sense.

Better yet, is there a scout from every regional that recorded the number ringers scored by each team there?
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