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Re: Bulldozing - allowed?

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POSSESSION: a GAME PIECE is considered to be in the POSSESSION of a ROBOT if it is
being fully supported by the ROBOT, or if the ROBOT is controlling the position and movement of the GAME PIECE. A GAME PIECE on the floor is considered to be in the POSSESSION of a ROBOT if it contacts the ROBOT at more than a single point (e.g. the ROBOT has a concave "plow" feature that is used to push the GAME PIECE in a controlled manner).
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<G09> POSSESSION - ROBOTS may only have 1 (one) GAME PIECE in their POSSESSION at any time during the match. A 10-point penalty will be assessed for each infraction.
Inadvertent bulldozing of GAME PIECES while the ROBOT moves around the field is allowed. Controlled "herding" of a single GAME PIECE lying on the floor is permitted as long as no other GAME PIECE is in the POSSESSION of the ROBOT. Herding of multiple GAME PIECES, or herding of a GAME PIECE on the floor while in POSSESSION of another GAME PIECE is not permitted (as this would be considered POSSESSION of more than one GAME PIECE). GAME PIECES may fall on to a ROBOT during the course of normal game play (e.g. a RINGER falls on a ROBOT while attempting to HANG it on a Spider Leg).
In such cases, GAME PIECES that are already in the POSSESSION of the ROBOT may be played. However, the additional GAME PIECE must be removed from the ROBOT (either by the ROBOT or by an ALLIANCE partner) before it can POSSESS a new GAME PIECE.
GAME PIECES may not be intentionally placed on opposing ROBOTS for the purpose of causing a violation of this rule. Any such GAME PIECE placements will not be considered in POSSESSION of the affected ROBOT, and will be ignored.
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This rule specifically requires that EACH tube touch the robot in more than 1 point to be considered in possession.

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Re: Another Herding Question

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"HERDING" implies that you are attempting to direct multiple Game Pieces to a particular location. Merely driving into an area occupied by multiple Game Pieces in an attempt to clear the area and letting them randomly scatter would not be considered herding.
As far as the Q&A answer goes. The Q&A is not an 'official' source (as proven by the stacking rule), and since their ruling is in contradiction to the 'official' rulebook, we must follow the rulebooks interpretation.

There is no 'implied' attempting to direct multiple game pieces in the rules. There is an implied definition of herding as 'possession' of multiple game pieces. Since possession is not specifically transitive you should be able to control 1 game piece with another. Unless someone can quote fron an 'official' source otherwise

This is, as usual, JMHO

BTW, Thei would be another good YMTC
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Re: Bulldozing - allowed?

in boston we used this strategy a couple of times against rampbots during the qualifiers....it happened to work too... (sorry rosie...)
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