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Unread 03-04-2007, 11:48
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Re: Predictions Week 5: Last Stop Before the Big Show... ...Part 2

I just looked up what happened to 2158 AusTIN CANs in TX. I see they won Rookie Allstar, no surprise there, but... ...they didn't get picked?!#!? I know that teams don't have a right to be drafted but, honestly, I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY WERE NOT PICKED!!! Really, what were the folks in TX thinking?

What gives?

#2158 is not on the list of teams for the Championships. The Rookie Allstar award gives them the right to go doesn't it?

Are they going?

If you have the scoop on this awesome rookie team, do tell...

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Re: Predictions Week 5: Last Stop Before the Big Show... ...Part 2

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#2158 is not on the list of teams for the Championships. The Rookie Allstar award gives them the right to go doesn't it?
If you go to their team page, it shows that they have registered: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....info&team=2158 however, since they don't show up on the championship list, that means they haven't paid yet.
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Re: Predictions Week 5: Last Stop Before the Big Show... ...Part 2

Concerning 2158, I talked with one of their mentors yesterday and they are quickly trying to raise the funds necessary for a trip to Atlanta. But overall he seemed confident that 2158 would be in Atlanta.
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Re: Predictions Week 5: Last Stop Before the Big Show... ...Part 2

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I just looked up what happened to 2158 AusTIN CANs in TX. I see they won Rookie Allstar, no surprise there, but... ...they didn't get picked?!#!? I know that teams don't have a right to be drafted but, honestly, I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY WERE NOT PICKED!!! Really, what were the folks in TX thinking?

What gives?

#2158 is not on the list of teams for the Championships. The Rookie Allstar award gives them the right to go doesn't it?

Are they going?

If you have the scoop on this awesome rookie team, do tell...

Joe J.
I posted this under the "2007 best tube scorers" Page 10 at the bottom.
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Unfortunately many teams do not understand this concept. I saw some bad calls at Lone Star and they seemed as if they did know what was going on. I think that many teams went unrecognized at the LSR because of this lack of scouting and this "blind faith" in seeding stats. Kryptonite and the ausTIN CANs were some of THE best bots in their class, but due to a combination of bad alliance partners and good opponents they stood no chance.
That is what happened Dr. Joe.

Everybody sees seeding scores, but not everyone sees in depth data of every team from every bot they've picked up to every tube they've scored and on which spider leg.

I was rooting for 2158 the whole time. They scored all 8 in a practice match Thursday, but its a shame that no one remembered that Saturday.

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Re: Predictions Week 5: Last Stop Before the Big Show... ...Part 2

We just paid for Championship. When the qualification matches are posted, people will see some great matches with AusTIN CANS (2158). We saved some really good teams from losing a match (especially the regional finalists) . We also played against quite a few great teams, 476 and 364. We scored 8 in a practice match, 5 in a couple qualification matches and used ramps twice. We also had our autonomous almost score on multiple occasions.

I think we just lost the pick to 1750 and 1745 because most teams were looking for defense in the 3rd alliance.
148's head mentor told us directly they were looking to pick us, but 148 was not able to make the picking decision on their alliance.

Luckily, 2158 is going to championship and the robot has not suffered any major setbacks, so get ready atlanta, the ausTin Cans are coming !
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We just paid for Championship. When the qualification matches are posted, people will see some great matches with AusTIN CANS (2158). We saved some really good teams from losing a match (especially the regional finalists) . We also played against quite a few great teams, 476 and 364. We scored 8 in a practice match, 5 in a couple qualification matches and used ramps twice. We also had our autonomous almost score on multiple occasions.

I think we just lost the pick to 1750 and 1745 because most teams were looking for defense in the 3rd alliance.
148's head mentor told us directly they were looking to pick us, but 148 was not able to make the picking decision on their alliance.

Luckily, 2158 is going to championship and the robot has not suffered any major setbacks, so get ready atlanta, the ausTin Cans are coming !
Hurrah! I a very happy that AusTIN CANS will be in Atlanta. My main reason for posting was not so much to pick on the folks who are drafting teams but to give you guys a well deserved shot in the arm.

Two things that everyone (rookies and non-rookies alike) can take away from the very capable AusTIN CANS not getting drafted is that
#1 all teams should do at least some scouting, you never know how the draft is going to go, if your team gets to be an Alliance Captain, you owe it to your team and the teams you draft to do your best to pick from the available teams.

#2 do some work to make sure the drafting teams know about your team and your robot -- if one of the high seeds that ended up as an Alliance Capt. had heard from a pitch from 2158 prior to going to the draft, perhaps they would have been drafted. At least try to make sure other teams are aware of you. Don't be obnoxious, but don't be a wall flower either.

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Hurrah! I am very happy that AusTIN CANS will be in Atlanta.

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Everybody sees seeding scores, but not everyone sees in depth data of every team from every bot they've picked up to every tube they've scored and on which spider leg.
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I noticed this as well. The captain from 1421 and I were socked that 16 hadn't been picked before we got to pick the 3rd robot in our alliance. They had an effective arm, an autonomous that consistently scored keepers, and a fast crab drive that their driver could handle. The ausTIN CANS were next on our list, but 16 was just too good of a catch to pass up. Also, I was shocked that 624 wasn't picked. They had a strong drive train (4 CIMs with DeWalts, and wedge top on all their wheels I believe) and that awesome double fork lift.
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