biggest threat in atlanta

[reb12]

Rumor has it that 1583 from Colorado has quite the defensive bot? gee, I wonder where I heard that from . . .ohh yeah . . .

It was when our alliance in the Regional held the opposing highest scoring alliance in the COREG to 14, 32, & 34 points during the championship . . .

Of course I have some sort of bias . . . besides being crazy

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[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by Arefin Bari

Everyone forget to mention team 2056 (Patriotics), they maybe a rookie, but they do have two regional wins under their belt. They also have a simple design and have an autonomous mode that caps on the opposing side's rack. They also have a Rookie All-Star award backing them up. I have talked about "great" teams in other threads, but watch out for this one rookie at championship.

Indeed! i got to see these guys live and i would say wow every time. They were able to score on the other side of the rack in AUTO, score when heavily defended and able to scoot around the field when wanted to. They also went undefeated at GTR and had the pole position for picking. Dare i say they will come out ontop of thier division in atl in thier rookie year?


Also once again, another popularity contest thread where you see the big named teams and of course the posts about your own team, oh when will CD learn to stop this?

[Joel J]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

2 Defense + 1 awesome scorer. Everyone thinks defensive-minded alliances can't score tubes. Purge that thought from your heads. Also purge the thought that all defensive robots have to play defense all the time - they don't. Some do; many don't.

Ramps aren't nullified if you hold a defensively-created rack score advantage at the beginning of endgame.

Again, we'll see. I challenge some of the big scorers to consider the possibilities of participating in a defensive alliance as an option as opposed to the "drown 'em in offense" alliance strategy - which is "nothing new".

yea.

Tom said his strategy doesn't require an arm. That's what I was responding to.

As for defense+scoring..

2 of the three scorers on my dream alliance have good drivetrains. They have the option of running this strategy. Defense does take a bit of skill, I agree.. that is, the driver has to know how to use a decent drivetrain defensively. But in this game it seems sufficient to simply get in the way of scorers.

You want to block our scorers, eh? Our "beefy" drivetrains will meet at mid-field. I hope your scorer is faster than the one we've decided to cover.

If you ramp 2@12 and we ramp 2@12, then the ramps are nullified.

I don't (think I) underestimate defense.. I also agree with the statements, "no ramps, no chance" and "ramps win." I just like getting my cake and eating it too, whenever possible. I'm advocating my dream alliance.

And actually, I sway more to the defense+ramps strategy than to the score, score, score strategy.. especially since its very easy to lockdown the rack. But again, with three scorers, two (or more) having good drivetrains, and one (or more) having good ramps, I can choose from among many approaches depending on who's on the other side of the field.

Something else not given enough credit: a good field crew. Perfect alliance, perfect strategy, mediocre execution.. down in the first round.

I've been watching 1114 and 330, and looking at how well they execute. The drivers are good. They don't mess around picking up a tube, and don't mess around when they get to the rack; its in and out. And where are they capping on the rack? Exactly where a leg needs to be capped. Do they ever switch to defense, or etc.. absolutely.. just as soon as they need to. They both have good mechanisms for grabbing the tube, and scoring, but then again so do many other teams.. the difference seems to be that their drivers use the machine extremely well. That's one reason I think 56 can shine: drivers.

[Travis Hoffman]

Provided the match sorting algorithm doesn't mess everything up, there are most likely going to be one or two alliances in each division that are formed according to Joel's master plan (and it's a very, very good plan!). The question is, what are the 6-7 other alliances going to do to match up against the Goliaths? Will they simply try to keep up with the Joneses, formulate a similarly configured alliance, and attempt to match their offensive output? Do they have the robots and driver skill to accomplish this? Is this a pointless exercise?

Or will these alliance captains consider alternative alliance configurations that will throw a curveball at those who may have been expecting a fastball? Keep 'em guessing.

I'm just suggesting that if everyone follows the suit of the "master alliance" when making their alliance selections, they may find themselves a spectator as the top alliances proceed along smoothly into the Einstein finals.

I'm hoping for an eclectic and hectic mix of alliance strategies and capabilities in every division. It will make the eliminations more unpredictable and also more fun to play AND watch.

That being said, please continue to post about the "robots 2 watch 4" in Atlanta. Someone mentioned watching out for the little guys who might fly under the radar. 123, 291, and 379 all fit this billing - they can surprise you with their "relentless consistency". The next tier isn't so little, but is worth mentioning - 191, 375, 1038, and 1126 all have reliable autons and great scoring capabilities. Watch out for these guys if they are in your division!

[Joel J]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Provided the match sorting algorithm doesn't mess everything up, there is most likely going to be one or two alliances in each division that are formed according to Joel's master plan. The question is, what are the 6-7 other alliances going to do to match up against the Goliaths? Will they simply try to keep up with the Joneses, formulate a similarly configured alliance, and attempt to match their offensive output? Do they have the robots and driver skill to accomplish this? Is this a pointless exercise?

Or will these alliance captains consider alternative alliance configurations that will throw a curveball at those who may have been expecting a fastball? Keep 'em guessing.

I'm just suggesting that if everyone follows the suit of the "master alliance" when making their alliance selections, they may find themselves a spectator as the top alliances proceed along smoothly into the Einstein finals.

I'm hoping for an eclectic and hectic mix of alliance strategies and capabilities in every division. It will make the eliminations more unpredictable and also more fun to play AND watch.

That being said, please continue to post about the "robots 2 watch 4" in Atlanta. Someone mentioned watching out for the little guys who might fly under the radar. 123, 291, and 379 all fit this billing - they can surprise you with their "relentless consistency". The next tier isn't so little, but is worth mentioning - 191, 375, 1038, and 1126 all have reliable autons and great scoring capabilities. Watch out for these guys if they are in your division!

Oh wow. Loud and clear.

I wouldn't mind seeing something like this next week:

2056+48+379 vs. 148+254+181

Who can put together the better strategy.

I can't wait to watch these elims.

BTW-- I'm not saying any of these teams would actually pick each other.. and the thread was asking about defensive threats-- I missed that.

[Dan 1038]

Based on Pitt and Buckeye, I vote for 48 (Delphi Elite) and 247 (Da Bears). Both play fair, but brutal, defenses and lift two for 12"+ We would love to hook up with them in Atlanta!

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by Joel J.

I'm hoping defense+ramps isn't Tom's strategy-- as its nothing new. I don't think it is, though.

There's more ways to play defense than just brute force pushing. This game is half psychological.

Oh, and I lied when I said I didn't need an arm. I absolutely need an arm. I probably need one of the best arms out there. Whether or not I use it is a different story.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

There's more ways to play defense than just brute force pushing. This game is half psychological.

Oh, and I lied when I said I didn't need an arm. I absolutely need an arm. I probably need one of the best arms out there. Whether or not I use it is a different story.

50% physical, 90% mental (or something along those lines)... in the words of John Madden.

[seraphim33]

Originally Posted by Budda648

50% physical, 90% mental (or something along those lines)... in the words of John Madden.

u will not believe how many times ive heard the game this year compared to football lol

[POLISH703]

Originally Posted by BRosser314

ya im not sure if 703 is going but they have 14 wheels

703 will be there with all 14 wheels

[seraphim33]

Originally Posted by POLISH703

703 will be there with all 14 wheels

hopefully we are in the same division i wanna partner up with u in atlanta

[Alpha 997]

Originally Posted by Otaku

Honestly, if 1662 was going (Raptor Force Engineering), them. 675 went to SVR and Davis, and they were the only bot out of the 48/39 teams that pushed US around. And we pushed 1280 and the rack at the same time.

Video of rack turn-age:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5LdLXl2sips

And they were one of the couple of robots at the two regional that we won in that we couldn't push around. We won a head-on push against TWO robots in the final match for god’s sake!!!

[seraphim33]

Originally Posted by Alpha 997

We won a head-on push against TWO robots in the final match for god’s sake!!!

do u have a video of that i would love to see it

[Ashley Weed]

Originally Posted by BRosser314

Can some one put up a link for pics of 84 or videos, I ahve heard alot but havent seen anything

I'll get some up for you soon from competition.

[Alpha 997]

Originally Posted by Budda648

50% physical, 90% mental (or something along those lines)... in the words of John Madden.

...140% total...?