It's Championship, Not Nationals

[BandChick]

Originally Posted by burkechrs1

Doesn't the word "team" mean you will be in a competition of some sort. To me saying Robotics Competition Team sounds a little redundant.

The Apes of Wrath, Pioneer High School Robotics Competition Team #668..... Ugh. I'll stick to Robotics Team, or Vex Team, or Lego League Team. No "Competition" needed.

But that's just my opinion.

It's just a matter of the name of the PROGRAM. Whether it's implied or not, it's still the official title. Want to save yourself time? Say you're part of FRC Team # 668. And then when people ask you what FRC is, then you worry about the competition part =)

[Zyik]

-"Championships"
-Atlanta
- etc

I dont think it really matters what you call it. As long as you respect what goes on and do your part to insure that the spirt of the competition is never harmed it shouldn't matter. You could call it, "That one spot I'd give my arm to go to again," or "That place we dont have the money to go to next year."

[Steve W]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

hehe, canadians.

OK now the gloves are off. I have been sitting here patiently reading the fluff. As many know Nationals is a pet peeve of mine. The fact is that Nationals are what nations do before going to the Championship. Seeing that we have Regionals that we go to and teams from all countries are invited to, these are not Nationals. To the fact that other countries are invited to Championship then it could not be construed as Nationals. As for World Champions (Karthik you are bad) seeing that countries do not have Nationals to determine who is to go to the World Championship then again we go back to Championship.

I may be wrong here but I have never know anyone who has not thought of Championship of any sort as not being the final wrap up to determine the best of the best.

Alex,

Please note that there is humor in this post and that there is no (well almost) anger towards Alex.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Originally Posted by KathieK

That is correct, if that is the program you are participating in. Since my focus is more on FVC now I would assume you are an FVC team without it!

I am a "wordsmith" I guess, and a strong stickler for details (as any poor soul who has worked with me would know). I send corrections to webmasters when I find misspelled words or typos on their sites. Saying that words don't really matter is like saying you can use a widget when a gizmo is really what is needed. (And that's as technical an explanation as you're going to get from me).

And to all the members of NEMO - you are "NEMs" - pronounced "neem" - not NEMOs.

I'm a stickler for words, too. I'll bring this up when we have time to deal with it... however, I doubt it will change. It's on all of our banners and they aren't cheap. FIRST will probably have to live with the fact that we omit a word.

[nonother]

Well for people that want to refer to it with one word (nationals) instead of having to use two (the championship), you can do what my team has started calling it:

Globals

Compromise?

[MGoelz]

I like it; simple and to the point. No need for explanation on this one.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Originally Posted by nonother

Well for people that want to refer to it with one word (nationals) instead of having to use two (the championship), you can do what my team has started calling it:

Globals

Compromise?

Hurts my tongue.

I don't know the correct answer for what to call it, but whatever you feel like calling it, you can call it (as long as you don't call it nationals around me).

[TKM.368]

Originally Posted by nonother

Well for people that want to refer to it with one word (nationals) instead of having to use two (the championship), you can do what my team has started calling it:

Globals

Compromise?

Globals was my thought as well. We could take it a step further and take after the Miss Universe competition and just call it Universals - how much more impressive can you get than that!

On another note, I don't see anything wrong with 'Nationals' as long as the website remains www.USfirst.org!

[KathieK]

(Throwing my hands up in the air...) I'm leaving now to drive to the FVC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS... If anyone wishes to debate this wordsmithing with me further, look for me there!

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by KathieK

(Throwing my hands up in the air...) I'm leaving now to drive to the FVC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS... If anyone wishes to debate this wordsmithing with me further, look for me there!

Well, since every VEX event is a "Championship" event, I am not sure that is much of a differentiator (according to the list of events on the FIRST web site, the only exception appears to be the South Carolina "League Tournament" held in January - everything else is a "Championship").

-dave

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by Steve W

I may be wrong here but I have never know anyone who has not thought of Championship of any sort as not being the final wrap up to determine the best of the best.

OK, maybe it could be called "The FIRST Robotics Finals"?

(Is it just me, or was Steve W's triple negative sentence a bit of a brain twister? )

[Jessica Boucher]

As far as I can see, the intent of the thread was a reminder to everyone to stop calling the CMP "Nationals", and aside from my personal opinion about the issue or the thread, the thread has evolved into something entirely different.

Please, back on topic! Thanks in advance

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Jessica Boucher

As far as I can see, the intent of the thread was a reminder to everyone to stop calling the CMP "Nationals", and aside from my personal opinion about the issue or the thread, the thread has evolved into something entirely different.

Please, back on topic! Thanks in advance

Thanks Jess, I didn't mean for this to be me yelling or anything, I just wanted to remind people that it's called Champs for a reason, and that as FIRST gets bigger and has more attention placed on it, we need to standardize what we call it. It's like using a combination of the new and old logo.

[kawelch]

Champs, Nationals, Global...whatever... I'm still not going...sigh

[burkechrs1]

Does the "s" in the words nationals mean their is more than one nation going. So doesn't that mean it is right? Now if it was the national championship or what not then it would be wrong. But doesn't the words nationalS mean to intend more than one nation? This is one of the few logical reasons I still call it that.

But all in all it is just a name. Nothing in this country is 100% politically correct ie. World Series, and until out of country teams start to seriously feel offended then I don't see a problem with it. Seriously if your an out of countrty team and you feel offeneded like somebody is not recognizing you as a team or leaving you out for being a part of the FIRST Organization then speak up, otherwise the only reason to argue this is just to argue.

But then again, I'm not an English teacher or a crazy smart guy when it comes to spelling and grammar, I'm just an average senior on a robotics team. But is this really necesary to argue? Is it that important to people, and I mean because they feel offended not because it is politically incorrect.

This all my opinion so don't go attacking me because of my words. I have a right to an opinion. Have a great day. See you all at the... na..... cham..... on Thursday =D