Go to Post I love it when someone tells me I can't do something. - dlavery [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 06:51
Michael Hill's Avatar
Michael Hill Michael Hill is offline
Registered User
FRC #3138 (Innovators Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 1,574
Michael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond repute
Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Not that it would affect the match at all, but I noticed that the numbers on the plates on the top row of the rack were in a different order than the numbers on the other fields. On Einstein, the numbers increased going counter-clockwise, while on the other fields, they increased while going clockwise.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 10:11
mtaman02's Avatar
mtaman02 mtaman02 is offline
FIRST's Spare, Queuer & Tech guy =)
AKA: Mike M. / Mouse =)
no team (FRC Volunteer)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 1,504
mtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to mtaman02 Send a message via Yahoo to mtaman02
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

That's because one of the FTA guys who was putting it together was in a rush to get it done instead of taking their time in doing it right . Thats what they get when they choose to do it themselves instead of asking for help.
__________________
Past FIRST Robotics Events that I proudly volunteered at:
FLL: NY State Competition '03
FRC: NYC Remote Kickoff '04 & NYC Regionals '04-'15 ,'10-'13 & NJ Regionals '06-'10, Finger Lakes Regional '09 & SBPLI Regional '08-'15 and the World Championship in '05 (Galileo Field) '07 (Newton Field) '09 (Practice Fields Attendant / FTA(A)), CeBIT Convention in '04 & NextFEST in '06 both held @ the Javitts Center, Monty Madness '07-'10, Panda-monium '08, B.Eruption '08 & '09, Ramp Riot '08, PARC '09 & '10, BR^2 '09 & Wol. Inv. '09 -'15
2015 FIRST Robotics Off Season Events that I hope to volunteer at:
Where is Wolcott Invitational
2015 FIRST Robotics Events that I will be volunteering at:
SBPLI Reg. & Championships
Volunteer Resume:
Alt & Lead Team Queuer, Field Repair/Reset, Field Setup/Breakdown, Spare Parts Attendant, Field Power Controller/Score Keeper, Co-Emcee & Official Scorer, Control System Advisor, FIRST Tech Advisor Assistant & recently Practice Field Attendant.
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 13:16
DonRotolo's Avatar
DonRotolo DonRotolo is offline
Back to humble
FRC #0832
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 7,003
DonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Does it matter?

YES = Then How?
NO = Then forget about it.

Don
__________________

I am N2IRZ - What's your callsign?
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 13:19
Ricky Q.'s Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Ricky Q. Ricky Q. is offline
yee haw!
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,651
Ricky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond reputeRicky Q. has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Ricky Q.
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Rotolo View Post
Does it matter?

YES = Then How?
NO = Then forget about it.

Don
Yes it does matter, because the scoring on the PDAs for the rack goes by the number of the spider legs. Each corner scoring ref has 4 legs, if they are in the wrong order then things can go wrong.

That is why there was a delay before the first match on Einstein as the FTAs and Refs were discussing this and making sure the people working the PDAs knew what was going on.
__________________
Ricky Quinones
Director of Sales - VEX Robotics
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 13:20
Cody Carey's Avatar
Cody Carey Cody Carey is offline
,':-)
AKA: C. Carey
FRC #0306 (CRT)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Corry, PA
Posts: 1,137
Cody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond reputeCody Carey has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Cody Carey Send a message via Yahoo to Cody Carey
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Well, it doesn't matter... but I'm not going to just forget about it. It makes absolutely no difference, and nobody really did anything wrong, so I won't make a big deal of it. But there really isn't any reason just to forget a random bit of knowledge.


(After all, It may be useful in FIRST trivial pursuit twenty years down the road )


EDIT: It doesn't matter because all of the PDA weilding refs knew what was going on, as per Ricky Q.'s post.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 17:08
Liz Smith's Avatar
Liz Smith Liz Smith is offline
believes in robots
AKA: Pika1579
FRC #3940
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 386
Liz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond reputeLiz Smith has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Liz Smith
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Yeah, I noticed that the rack on Einstein was built backwards. How did I know? I had the honor of being one of the refs who was working the PDAs on Einstein. Did it matter? Not really ... it was a little annoying and confusing, but it didn't affect the scoring at all. After checking, and rechecking, and rechecking the scores came through correctly in the end.
__________________
Alumna of 555 Mentor of 3940
Volunteering since 2004: Say hi to me at events!
Applications Engineer
AndyMark, Inc.

Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 18:34
Devastater's Avatar
Devastater Devastater is offline
Registered User
#0910
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 12
Devastater is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

hey, about the lighting........

im from team 910, we had an auton that worked 6 out of 7 times during our qualifying matches thurs/friday, and granted we had some unexpected problems during the finals in Curie, while we were on einstine, we noticed that some of either the flood lights or whatever sort of lighting FIRST had in the dome messed us up.....the angle that our camera was at while we would drive up to the rack apparently would line up with a flood light in the background of the real light we were looking for and confused the programming quite a bit. I was told they did something last year to fix lighting issues in the dome but did nothing this year.....not sure why though.
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-04-2007, 23:50
mtaman02's Avatar
mtaman02 mtaman02 is offline
FIRST's Spare, Queuer & Tech guy =)
AKA: Mike M. / Mouse =)
no team (FRC Volunteer)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 1,504
mtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to mtaman02 Send a message via Yahoo to mtaman02
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Every Field at the Dome had either a lighter side or darker side espicially Einstein b/c of all the other fancy lighting that was hooked up to that "center stage". As long as the FTA tests the green lights to make sure there is no signicant problems then all is well by them. A huge dis-advantage to those who had already programmed their cameras once and did not have the opportunity to program it twice. (Once being their home field and the second would be Einstein.)
__________________
Past FIRST Robotics Events that I proudly volunteered at:
FLL: NY State Competition '03
FRC: NYC Remote Kickoff '04 & NYC Regionals '04-'15 ,'10-'13 & NJ Regionals '06-'10, Finger Lakes Regional '09 & SBPLI Regional '08-'15 and the World Championship in '05 (Galileo Field) '07 (Newton Field) '09 (Practice Fields Attendant / FTA(A)), CeBIT Convention in '04 & NextFEST in '06 both held @ the Javitts Center, Monty Madness '07-'10, Panda-monium '08, B.Eruption '08 & '09, Ramp Riot '08, PARC '09 & '10, BR^2 '09 & Wol. Inv. '09 -'15
2015 FIRST Robotics Off Season Events that I hope to volunteer at:
Where is Wolcott Invitational
2015 FIRST Robotics Events that I will be volunteering at:
SBPLI Reg. & Championships
Volunteer Resume:
Alt & Lead Team Queuer, Field Repair/Reset, Field Setup/Breakdown, Spare Parts Attendant, Field Power Controller/Score Keeper, Co-Emcee & Official Scorer, Control System Advisor, FIRST Tech Advisor Assistant & recently Practice Field Attendant.

Last edited by mtaman02 : 15-04-2007 at 23:52.
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-04-2007, 00:02
Jeremiah Johnson's Avatar
Jeremiah Johnson Jeremiah Johnson is offline
Go VOLS!!
AKA: Budda648
no team (QC Elite)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Davenport, IA
Posts: 1,476
Jeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJeremiah Johnson has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Jeremiah Johnson Send a message via MSN to Jeremiah Johnson
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

They did give teams the opportunity to recalibrate their cameras on Einstein... I didn't see anyone on the field at that time, but then again I was watching from Curie seating.
__________________
Do The Tyler!

XBOX Live Gamertag = theVelvetLie
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-04-2007, 09:37
Peter Matteson's Avatar
Peter Matteson Peter Matteson is offline
Ambitious but rubbish!
FRC #0177 (Bobcat Robotics)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: South Windsor, CT
Posts: 1,653
Peter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond reputePeter Matteson has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Budda648 View Post
They did give teams the opportunity to recalibrate their cameras on Einstein... I didn't see anyone on the field at that time, but then again I was watching from Curie seating.
Pink was on the field at that time and I believe that is what they were doing.
__________________
2011 Championship Finalists/Archimedes Division Championships w/ 2016 & 781
2010 Championship Winners/Newton Division Champions
Thank-you 294 & 67

2009 Newton Division Champions w/ 1507 & 121
2008 Archimedes Division Champions w/ 1124 & 1024
2007 Championship Winners/Newton Division Champions w/190, 987 & 177 The Wall of Maroon
2006 Galileo Division Champions w/ 1126 & 201
www.bobcatrobotics.org
"If you can't do it with brains, it won't be done with hours." - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-04-2007, 11:13
BiTurboS4's Avatar
BiTurboS4 BiTurboS4 is offline
Resident Cynic
no team
 
Join Date: May 2006
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: 603
Posts: 37
BiTurboS4 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to BiTurboS4
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtaman02 View Post
That's because one of the FTA guys who was putting it together was in a rush to get it done instead of taking their time in doing it right . Thats what they get when they choose to do it themselves instead of asking for help.
What does it matter if they were in a rush or not? Only a small few people have even noticed that the numbers where backwards. It didn't change anyone's plan on how to with the match, nor did it cause any insurmountable issues for the refs doing real time scoring. So why make a big deal out of nothing?
__________________
Opinions expressed or implied, are thoughts of this individual alone.

If you're looking for the "warm and fuzzy" answer or posts, please look elsewhere.
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-04-2007, 15:18
Covey41 Covey41 is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 58
Covey41 is a glorious beacon of lightCovey41 is a glorious beacon of lightCovey41 is a glorious beacon of lightCovey41 is a glorious beacon of lightCovey41 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Did anyone think that might be an attemp by FIRST to see if anyone was payng attention?
__________________
"One day you will come to a fork in the road. And you're going to have to make a decision about what direction you want to go." Boyd raised his hand and pointed. "If you go that way you can be somebody. You will have to make compromises and you will have to turn your back on your friends. But you will be a member of the club and you will get promoted and you will get good assignments." Then Boyd raised the other hand and pointed another direction. "Or you can go that way and you can do something for your country, your Air Force and for yourself. If you decide to do something, you may not get promoted and you may not get the good assignments and you certainly will not be a favorite of your superiors. But you won't have to compromise yourself. You will be true to your friends and to yourself. And your work might make a difference. To be somebody or to do something. In life there is often a roll call. That's when you will have to make a decision. To be or to do? Which way will you go?"
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-04-2007, 15:38
Michael Hill's Avatar
Michael Hill Michael Hill is offline
Registered User
FRC #3138 (Innovators Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 1,574
Michael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Hill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Did anyone else notice the field error on Einstein?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTurboS4 View Post
What does it matter if they were in a rush or not? Only a small few people have even noticed that the numbers where backwards. It didn't change anyone's plan on how to with the match, nor did it cause any insurmountable issues for the refs doing real time scoring. So why make a big deal out of nothing?
I don't think anyone is making a big deal out of it. Actually, if you notice, in my first post bringing it up, I said it probably wouldn't even affect the outcome of the match at all.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
did anyone else have this problem? NuclearPeanut FIRST Tech Challenge 0 25-04-2005 14:34
Did anyone notice this... pi_guy578 General Forum 3 07-01-2004 21:59
Did anybody else notice... Brandon Martus Announcements 2 30-01-2003 09:08
Did anyone else notice team 121? CrazyForFirst Championship Event 17 05-05-2002 23:00
Did you notice robots dead on the field? Matt Reiland General Forum 16 19-03-2002 20:24


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi