Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by MasterChief 573

I know we're off that topic, I'm confused how you could have an understanding with a team in another division

Both 1504 and 65 were in Galileo

[Cartwright]

Not to sound vain or anything, but I was surprised when we, 234, didn't make it into Einstein. We scored 5-7 ringers many rounds, it really came down to qualification alliance partners that didn't work well. By the end of qualifications, we were seede 45th. Though we got into the q. finals of Curie, I thought that we were jipped by the alliance algorithm.

[Spider-Man]

Time to rein in this thread again. I'll preface this by saying that I haven't been to Championships since 2000 & 2001, which includes not going this year.

This thread was not intended to be a bitter dump for teams that did not like the way alliance selections went. There are a few things to keep in mind here:

• A team has every right to rank and pick teams for their alliance the way they choose
• If you didn't have fun because of not being picked or not making it further, I hope you can get past this quickly in order to truly enjoy the build season and competition experience. I watched all four webcasts (at once) on Saturday and found the matches exciting, yet I can only imagine the energy in the rest of the venue.
• Both times I went to the Championship, my team was not picked to be on an alliance, but I found the event to be exhilarating.
• Remember the regionals? Even if you were not in the elimination rounds there, you have had about 14-17 matches at least this season with your creation out on the field performing. You can have even more matches with a higher probability of elimination play if you to one of the many off-season events.
• Finally, there are 86 teams in a division with ~61 of them being automatic qualifiers from recent achievements. There are only 24 teams per division that get to play in finals alliances, so let's 86 the bitterness.
• EDIT: Just to reemphasize a FIRST mantra: It ain't about no robots doin' nothin'... It's about what happens to the people along the way.

If you find teams in your scouting top ten in any categories that didn't get picked, that would be a good subject for a post here. Please refrain from the second guessing of your own absence in the tournament .

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Cartwright

Not to sound vain or anything, but I was surprised when we, 234, didn't make it into Einstein. We scored 5-7 ringers many rounds, it really came down to alliance partners that didn't work well. By the end of qualifications, we were seede 45th. Though we got into the q. finals of Curie, I thought that we were jipped by the alliance algorithm.

yeah, and 294 should've won the whole thing....

3 robots from each division make it to Einstein, no team is guaranteed, especially in the division you were in.

You did have an amazing robot.... but so did 330, 469, 1114, 910, 67, 1270, 1523, and many many others that I am too tired to name.

There are no guarantees.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by Beth Sweet

Bud, they don't owe you an explination. You were on their list, be glad of that. They have the right to pick whoever they want. They have to talk to a few teams, I know 65 talked to us, even though at the end, we were only 4th on their list. So be happy you made a list, and better luck next year

He is right. If a team wants to tell you he reasons they didnt pick you, then they may. Its not obligatory of them to do so. We talked to 1504 all competition and watched them improve their robot after every match and they kept moving up our pick list. We didnt have them high on our list because we had 503 as the number one spot because they could ramp/score consistantly. I can give the explanation because we are not ashamed of our picks. Im not saying the Bears are ashamed but they dont NEED to give you an explanation because it was THEIR decision. Thats what FIRST is, it is the ability to choose your fate. If you are in the Top 8 seeds then you reserve the right to do what you please. I loved you guys in GLR and we had fun, but dont be upset if you did not get chosen.

[techtiger1]

Thanks to everyone who mentioned 1251 but we only can blame ourselves for our proformance. Other notables on Galileo were 70,237,1504 and my favorite rookies 2237. Besides that I do not know how 180 didn't get picked just for there ramps alone especially the way I saw most of the divisions go which was good ramps last and some were picking ramps only 180 also had a pretty good arm to go along with what I considered the best ramps of the year. Thats just thoughts good job to everyone just for getting the robot done and making it to championships. As far 1251 is concerned were not compliaing a gold, a silver, and two design awards is nothing to complain about.

-Drew

[MasterChief 573]

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

Both 1504 and 65 were in Galileo

My bad, I was thinking of 68.

[akash155]

i don't want to sound arrogant but, 540 had a pretty high scoring average and won the nasa/vcu regionals. But we were in Galileo so there was some pretty tough competition

[BRosser314]

Originally Posted by Laura 1547

I was actually really surprised when I heard that 1114 didn't make it to einstein. I thought they would be going for sure. Can anybody tell me what actually happened with them because I never actually heard the story. How far did they get?

please refer to other thread about CUrie problem and what happened, there is a long discussion going on there, and in my opinion the most controversary i my 5 years

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by BRosser314

please refer to other thread about CUrie problem and what happened, there is a long discussion going on there, and in my opinion the most controversary i my 5 years

aint that the truth.

[sovierr]

Originally Posted by tomburr91

Having local 233 and 179 and 1902 all go to Einstein made up for it though.

Let me also say thanks to all of you that posted about SPAM.

I want to congratulate Krunch and Voltage for making it to their division finals too. Florida teams performed well in Atlanta! (Please forgive me if I left any other FL teams out - it is all still a little of a blur right now)

[EricS-Team180]

Originally Posted by techtiger1

...good job to everyone just for getting the robot done and making it to championships.
-Drew

Rightly said Drew! I think it's a tribute to all the teams, that there are so many worthy of filling the elim's slots than there are slots available.
It makes the competition. We love it, and we'll be back for more next year.

Eric

[Forrest247]

Hi, I am from team 247 and would like to clarify things. First off, we are sorry to any teams that were under the assumption that we were going to pick you. It is true we were talking with team 1038, but do not assume that we were picking them just because thay were in our pit with us. Also, I would like to make this perfectly clear WE DID NOT TELL ANY TEAM OR PERSON THAT WE WOULD PICK THEM IF THEY GAVE US 20 DOLLARS.

What happend was:

We were talking to a lot of teams at the same time. One of the teams (i dont remember what one) jokingly asked us that if they gave us 20 dollars, would we pick them. We said, "No", because it is wrong, not condoned by FIRST, and certainly not the gracious professionalism that Team 247 works by. I hope this clears things up.