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Unread 18-04-2007, 23:18
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

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I was thinking about this the other day too Jeff, and for some odd reason I knew you would post it as soon as you guys lost.
I think it would be a good idea. Definitely. But, FIRST will say that it is a waste of time, and will only delay the closing of the event.
Of course, I want to keep playing!!
But, I'm sure there would be some awesome matches from this.
Obviously there would be scheduling and delay issues, but do people want to see these matches?
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Unread 18-04-2007, 23:26
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

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Of course, I want to keep playing!!
But, I'm sure there would be some awesome matches from this.
Obviously there would be scheduling and delay issues, but do people want to see these matches?
I totally agree Jeff. I do think alot of teams that get eliminated are much more capable of producing incredible matches.
330 was my favorite robot this year, and seeing them in another round would have been awesome.
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

It is an intersting idea. I guess there has never really been an official 3rd place in FIRST at least as back as I remember. However this brings up another intersting item. The time issue, we've relegated pretty big awards (aka Woodie Flowers), cut out honorable mentions, some of the production, etc., etc. all in an attempt to cut time out of closing ceremonies. I find it interesting how teams are willing to give up 5 days, travel to Atlanta, and essentially sit indoors in the same seats for 4 days straight watching matches, but suddenly if the award ceremony runs 5 seconds too long it is the travesty of the century. Don't think this attitude prevails? Witness the stands emptying this year as Chairman's was announced. An hour or two out of 72 isn't to much to ask to make sure that people and teams the honored appropriately, after all we are there for the robots and to recognize the teams and people who have made important contributions to FIRST that is a lot of what championships are about...shouldn't the get their due without constantly having to worry about how long it is going to take, how much things will run over, etc.?

I guess that was kind of a rant, and I apologize if I stepped on any feathers but it is something that has been eating at me the last few years with the increasing production being put into championships.

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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

I like the idea from a competitive standpoint - it'd be great to see some of those matchups! That being said, it seems like the Einstein Finals drag on longer and longer each year. Adding an additional series would probably add 20-30 minutes to the process. So, as much as I'd love to see it, I don't know if I could handle the added time.
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

I would even favor adding a single-match consolation to every FRC event. From a team perspective, there doesn't have to be any additional hardware. Treat it as an exhibition, and bragging rights would be plenty for me. From a spectator perspective, I think I could spare the extra six minutes to watch one more high-quality match.
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

I'm not too sure on this one. I, personally, think that it would be a great idea. I think everyone always wonders anyway, what would happen if they went against each other. You are always going to have the impatient ones. Although, there was a good point brought up about Chairman's honorable mentions. I didn't even know there ever was such a thing, since this is my first year as a part of FRC. It doesn't make sense to me why they would take that away. Afterall, in the acronym of FIRST, I believe there is the word 'recognition.' Hmmm...just a thought. I don't know; this can get very opinionated, I think.
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

no, being tied for third in the world is just fine. maybe at regionals,before third match if there is one for first place. one match only.
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Re: Einstein Consolation Match

As a member of 1902, I am fine with saying we were part of the final four. What a privlege to be on Einstein. There are about 1300 teams that would have traded places with us as it is.

I say keep it like it is.
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