Past Champs?

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

I find it interesting that 987 is the highest team number ever to win The Championship, and before them the highest number was only in the 500's.

When will present high number teams have enough experience to pull through and score big on Einstein?

The highest numbered champion has increases every year since 2003 (469, 494, 503, 522, 987), so it shouldn't be too much longer. You may also note that only two teams over 200 have won Chairman's (254 in 2004 and 365 in 2007, next highest is 191, and the youngest teams were started in 1997 [22, 67, and 103]). The last three Chairman's winners have also won the Championship event (365, 111, and 67), and 254 (2004) has been finalists twice (2001, 2005). The only other Chairman's team to win the Championship is 144.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

The highest numbered champion has increases every year since 2003 (469, 494, 503, 522, 987), so it shouldn't be too much longer. You may also note that only two teams over 200 have won Chairman's (254 in 2004 and 365 in 2007, next highest is 191, and the youngest teams were started in 1997 [22, 67, and 103]). The last three Chairman's winners have also won the Championship event (365, 111, and 67), and 254 (2004) has been finalists twice (2001, 2005). The only other Chairman's team to win the Championship is 144.

I think that this might be something that we will see more and more often, teams who win the Championship to also win a Chairmans later in the teams future, or like HOT in the same year. I think it shows that a team can fill all the aspects of FIRST, building a great team and building a great robot.

[Monochron]

What was up with 2001's game? Thats a whole lot of winners!

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Monochron

What was up with 2001's game? Thats a whole lot of winners!

The game had 4 teams per alliance, and a 5th back-up robot (much like all the other alliance games up until 2005, which were 2 v 2 with a back-up). It was played 4 v 0, where the alliances would face off and keep trying to raise the score until one couldn't.

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

The game had 4 teams per alliance, and a 5th back-up robot (much like all the other alliance games up until 2005, which were 2 v 2 with a back-up).

There were only 4 alliances per division in 2001 and the first pick was automatic by rankings following this formula

1 paired with 5
2 paired with 6
3 paired with 7
4 paired with 8

Although there were 5 teams per alliance, there were only 12 total "draft picks", which is less than the 16 in every year since then.

The 2001 Championship Alliance was formed like this
71 (1st seed)
294 (5th seed, auto pick)
125 (1st pick overall)
365 (5th pick overall)
279 (9th pick overall)

I posted about the alliance roles in this thread. Most interesting note from that post is that 279 was an alternate but actually played a key role.

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

It was played 4 v 0, where the alliances would face off and keep trying to raise the score until one couldn't.

They would play at least 4 and no more than 6 total matches. The alliance with the highest match score won. In the event of a tie, the highest average score won. This happened in the Finals at the Week 1 J&J Regional between the #1 and #2 alliances. As I remember it went like this.

Match 1: #1 puts up a score
Match 2: #2 puts up a higher score
Match 3: #2 puts up a higher score (probably 560 pts)
Match 4: #1 ties the high score (560)
Match 5: #2 puts up a higher score (probably 568)
Match 6: #1 ties the high score (568)

After these 6 exciting finals matches, they announced that the finals were over, but they didn't know who won . They took a break, called New Hampshire, and announced that average score was the tie breaker and the #2 alliance won.

J&J Champs #2 alliance: 175, 95, 75, 133, & 56
J&J Finalist #1 alliance: 303, 365, 191, 103, & 145

[Brandon Holley]

Anyone have video of 2001 nationals ??

[xzvrw2]

not at nationals...but there is footage of midwest that year.
its at www.wildstang.org then click on the "wildstand team videos & animations" link, then click on 2001.

[Doug Leppard]

Originally Posted by InfernoX14

It could have happened this year. 1902 had a very good shot.

Yes we beat them first round, but they figured us out and came back.

So in the words of the great philosopher "We'll be back!"

Interesting, in our rookie year last year we lost in the finals in Archimedes having won the first game and loosing next two. They went on to win Championships undefeated. Our partners were 233 and 33. 233 came close to winning this year.

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard

Yes we beat them first round, but they figured us out and came back.

So in the words of the great philosopher "We'll be back!"

Interesting, in our rookie year last year we lost in the finals in Archimedes having won the first game and loosing next two. They went on to win Championships undefeated. Our partners were 233 and 33. 233 came close to winning this year.

Last year we (177) went undefeated 13-0 on Galileo then won the First Einstein match against the Newton Alliance. We lost the next 2 getting knocked out. This was actually a discussion we had with some of the RAGE mentors in the airport on the way home because it of the similarities between our seasons.

[Chris1270]

Originally Posted by Peter Matteson

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Billfred again.

I hate it when that happens!

1270 when have been Curie champs if we would have not go cheatet out of are match.


And The First Curie Champs

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Chris1270

1270 when have been Curie champs if we would have not go cheatet out of are match.

1270 was Curie champs, and no where were you cheated. You may disagree with a call by the refs, but by no means were you cheated.