Go to Post the weather always does funny things to people, like when it snows, all these engineers take kids, lock themselves in machine shops & build robots......weird - Lisa Rodriguez [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Team Organization
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-05-2007, 10:15
Bomberofdoom's Avatar
Bomberofdoom Bomberofdoom is offline
Biggest FIRST addict in Israel
AKA: Nir Levanon
FRC #2230 (Zcharia's Angels)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Israel
Posts: 471
Bomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond reputeBomberofdoom has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Bomberofdoom
Re: Team rules

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisMcK2186 View Post
Hey all,

My team right now is trying to get all the kinks hammered out with our leadership setup and rules. We are a rookie team that found out we are a team in December, so we didn't have time to get a very structered rules set.

My question is this, do the teams out there have a written down set of rules or is it more implied guidlines? If you do have rules, what is the discipline for those who break them? If you do not have rules, how do you maintian order?

Thanks for your help with this,
Chris
Chris,

Same thing happened to our team, we barley had enough time to go over the details of what is FIRST and how everything works and what we should do.
Even after the competition, when we had a major reduce in participation of students, we're not entirly sure about everything of what we should do next year(but we're working on it).

We didn't have rules in this year's season and we tried to come up with some "schedule" of work. It might have worked for the first weeks, but in the middle it started to prove wrong and lots of student participation was missing. Allot of days when we needed one preson from a sub team to assist another, he wasn't there because he left before for he was told he had nothing to do(who told him?) and the next time he would appear would be only a few more days.
It was very messy and there were people responsible for activity and sometimes it was because they didn't know what to do since we haven't had a lot of time to learn our roles and didn't have time in the building process to go over the rules.

I think the only way to maintain order without rules is to find those who want to be a big part of this project and try to set dates for them to participate.
In my opinion. The whole team should be available almost all day. Of course, it's sometimes imposible, but I think that there should be maximum participation for a successful building process.

I've been nailed in the last seconed the position of the team leader and I've spoken before with my team and I asked them what THEY think are the team goals, and they told me that they have some ideas but it's my job to ditermine and apply them to the rest of the team.

I've had my own problems trying to lead the programming sub-team, but it came out more or less fine and I'm afraid I won't be able to do better as a leader of the whole team.

While reading other teams handbooks, I find very interesting stuff that I would like to share with my team.

Chris, if you figure out something interesting about team mangement I'd like to know about it too, so I'm hoping we can keep in touch about these stuff.

I have one question from all this and it is how do I make people participate?
__________________
TEAM 2230 ZECHARIA'S ANGELS

2009 Microsoft Israel FRC Regional Winners!
2009 Microsoft Israel FRC Regional Chairman's Award Winners!!!
---------------------------------
2008 Microsoft Israel FRC Regional semi-finalist.
2008 Microsoft Israel FRC Regional Delphi's "Driving Tommorow's Technology" Award winner.
2008 Robot Driver
---------------------------------
2007 GM/Technion Israel FRC Regional semi-Finalist.
2007 GM/Technion Israel FRC Regional Xerox Creativity Award winner.
2007 Robot Driver.
Reply With Quote
  #17   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-05-2007, 16:20
technoL's Avatar
technoL technoL is offline
Registered User
AKA: Noelle Manning
FRC #0108 (SigmaC@T)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 214
technoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud oftechnoL has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to technoL
Re: Team rules

As a general thing to keep in mind, there are some amazing team handbooks out there, I've read a lot of them, but make sure to absorb all of this information and then apply it to your team specifically. You may want to hold a meeting with your whole team to see what went wrong, what went right, what needs to change, and how you are going to go about doing it. After this list has been compiled, draft a list of of general team rules, preferably into various sections. Make it easy to read so that students won't get confused about the difference between what is acceptable at school(or wherever you work), and what is acceptable when traveling or at competition.

Then you can compare your unique guidelines to an already existing handbook to see if you have left out or want to change something. Whats most important is that this fits your team. If you have any new policies that you would like to set forth, this would be a great time to introduce them. Good luck with creating a set of rules of your own.

-No L
__________________
Team Leader | Mechanical | Driver | SOAP | Anything
2008: NJ GM Industrial Design Award, 4th Seed | FL Rockwell Automation Innovation in Control Award, 1st Seed, Semifinalists
2007: FL Finalists | LV Xerox Creativity Award, Quarterfinalists | Mission Mayhem Champs
2006: FL Delphi's Driving Tomorrow's Technology | Curie Quarterfinalists
Reply With Quote
  #18   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-05-2007, 17:30
mtaman02's Avatar
mtaman02 mtaman02 is offline
FIRST's Spare, Queuer & Tech guy =)
AKA: Mike M. / Mouse =)
no team (FRC Volunteer)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 1,504
mtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to mtaman02 Send a message via Yahoo to mtaman02
Re: Team rules

To list a few major rules:
No Cussing. (Especially at the Competitions where there are many people watching including Judges!) Punishment - Member(s) should not be allowed to attend an event until they have learned their lesson. Repeated Offenses will not be tolerated.

No Cutting Classes. Punishment - Off the Team for 2 Weeks. Repeated Offenses will not be tolerated.

Not Allowed to Fail Classes. Punishment - Off the Team for a Marking Period or More.

Team Setup should be broken down into committees or sub-divisions with one person in charge of each or as needed. The Biggest Sub-Divisions are Team Leadership as a whole, Sponsorship and Fundraising (Which should be one committee), Pit Crew, Safety, Scouting, Drive Team, Build Team, Team Costumes, Graphics, Give Aways & Spirit (Which should also be one committee).
__________________
Past FIRST Robotics Events that I proudly volunteered at:
FLL: NY State Competition '03
FRC: NYC Remote Kickoff '04 & NYC Regionals '04-'15 ,'10-'13 & NJ Regionals '06-'10, Finger Lakes Regional '09 & SBPLI Regional '08-'15 and the World Championship in '05 (Galileo Field) '07 (Newton Field) '09 (Practice Fields Attendant / FTA(A)), CeBIT Convention in '04 & NextFEST in '06 both held @ the Javitts Center, Monty Madness '07-'10, Panda-monium '08, B.Eruption '08 & '09, Ramp Riot '08, PARC '09 & '10, BR^2 '09 & Wol. Inv. '09 -'15
2015 FIRST Robotics Off Season Events that I hope to volunteer at:
Where is Wolcott Invitational
2015 FIRST Robotics Events that I will be volunteering at:
SBPLI Reg. & Championships
Volunteer Resume:
Alt & Lead Team Queuer, Field Repair/Reset, Field Setup/Breakdown, Spare Parts Attendant, Field Power Controller/Score Keeper, Co-Emcee & Official Scorer, Control System Advisor, FIRST Tech Advisor Assistant & recently Practice Field Attendant.
Reply With Quote
  #19   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-05-2007, 22:17
Scott Carpman's Avatar
Scott Carpman Scott Carpman is offline
Registered User
FRC #1155 (SciBorgs)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: New York City
Posts: 284
Scott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud ofScott Carpman has much to be proud of
Re: Team rules

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtaman02 View Post
No Cussing. (Especially at the Competitions where there are many people watching including Judges!) Punishment - Member(s) should not be allowed to attend an event until they have learned their lesson. Repeated Offenses will not be tolerated.
Just wondering, what was the initial reasoning for creating this rule?
__________________
RPI '12
Reply With Quote
  #20   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-05-2007, 22:22
Simon Strauss's Avatar
Simon Strauss Simon Strauss is offline
Registered User
None #1155 (Sciborgs)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: new york city
Posts: 342
Simon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant futureSimon Strauss has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to Simon Strauss
Re: Team rules

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Carpman View Post
We use a Team Constitution that has been in effect for this season. It was created in order to have more autonomy within the school's chain of command. So far it has been invoked once to remove a student.
The constitution Scott is speaking of can be found here http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/search/results/51666

-Simon
__________________
NYC Chairmen's Award Winners 2007 Thank you team 2265, you were our project and we couldnt have done it without you all

New Jersey Regional Finalists thanks to teams 359 and 486 Aloha


"Beware of the Ska Robot Army!" -The Aquabats
Reply With Quote
  #21   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-05-2007, 06:59
mtaman02's Avatar
mtaman02 mtaman02 is offline
FIRST's Spare, Queuer & Tech guy =)
AKA: Mike M. / Mouse =)
no team (FRC Volunteer)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 1,504
mtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to mtaman02 Send a message via Yahoo to mtaman02
Re: Team rules

The Reason for the rule was b/c Kids of all ages - Including Mentors - kinda get carried away when trying to get their point across and kids usually learn from the adults. So to prevent kids from going off and using any words that come into their heads you start regulating whats appropriate and whats not. I work around many many people daily and there are soooo many other words to use other then the available cuss words. I admit I'm no saint but I restrain my vulgar opinion when in the public view whether at work or at an event with my old team or at an event by myself. Point Being teach the young ones now before they get out into the work force / continue on to college that there is no room for vulgarity. Respect the ones around you to obtain respect from them. Yes the members of all these teams in FIRST come from High Schools but not all these members no right from wrong. Teach them now while it's still easy to do so before they find out the hard way. And pray that the hard way is not by costing the team an award.
__________________
Past FIRST Robotics Events that I proudly volunteered at:
FLL: NY State Competition '03
FRC: NYC Remote Kickoff '04 & NYC Regionals '04-'15 ,'10-'13 & NJ Regionals '06-'10, Finger Lakes Regional '09 & SBPLI Regional '08-'15 and the World Championship in '05 (Galileo Field) '07 (Newton Field) '09 (Practice Fields Attendant / FTA(A)), CeBIT Convention in '04 & NextFEST in '06 both held @ the Javitts Center, Monty Madness '07-'10, Panda-monium '08, B.Eruption '08 & '09, Ramp Riot '08, PARC '09 & '10, BR^2 '09 & Wol. Inv. '09 -'15
2015 FIRST Robotics Off Season Events that I hope to volunteer at:
Where is Wolcott Invitational
2015 FIRST Robotics Events that I will be volunteering at:
SBPLI Reg. & Championships
Volunteer Resume:
Alt & Lead Team Queuer, Field Repair/Reset, Field Setup/Breakdown, Spare Parts Attendant, Field Power Controller/Score Keeper, Co-Emcee & Official Scorer, Control System Advisor, FIRST Tech Advisor Assistant & recently Practice Field Attendant.
Reply With Quote
  #22   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-01-2008, 15:45
Elgin Clock's Avatar
Elgin Clock Elgin Clock is offline
updates this status less than FB!
AKA: the one who "will break into your thoughts..."
FRC #0237 (Black Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2001
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: H20-Town, Connecticut
Posts: 7,773
Elgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Elgin Clock
Re: Team rules

I figured I would resurrect this thread as we approach a new season, as this info may be helpful to all teams both old and new.

I also wanted to share our Team Handbook that we have for this season, and which we have built upon in the 10 years 237 has been involved in FIRST.

http://www.team237.com/team237handbook08.doc


Good luck to everyone in 2008!
__________________
The influence of many leads to the individuality of one. - E.C.C. (That's me!!)

Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Regional-specific rules, etc., and do the referees read the rules? Kit Gerhart Rules/Strategy 53 18-04-2005 08:51
Team 1272 Rules. D.J. Fluck Thanks and/or Congrats 2 20-04-2004 15:13
FIRST rules on Inter-Team Collaboration Joel Glidden General Forum 3 25-02-2004 13:15
Dilemma - Letter of the rules v. spirit of the rules Natchez General Forum 27 03-04-2003 15:37
Rules Clarification in Team Update #1 dlavery General Forum 8 08-01-2003 12:36


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi