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Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

In Boston I was talking with a friend, and finally told about an idea I had after seeing some actual competitions.

Instant ramp for less than 50 bucks (cheapest version) at any store (Walmart, K-Mart, Toys-R-Us, Kay-Bee Toys etc..)

Now that the regular season is over, and I never saw anything like this implemented, maybe someone wants to run with it for the offseason?

It would be legal under costing, and COTS, and weight, but size may be an issue (width mostly - nothing a sawz-all couldn't take care of though..

But would any team actually buy one of these and bolt it on?


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http://www.amazon.com/World-Industri...728745&sr=1-12

http://www.amazon.com/Landwave-Skate...8728765&sr=1-7

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Yeah... that KISS principle is in full effect with this one.
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

Isn't it more fun to build it your self? Those would have been a good idea, cheep and must be strong enough to hold the kid and skate board, and able to be easily driven onto.
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

Elgin,

Keep your eye out for a certain "post season" bot, coming to your nearest New England competition. Under $50, 5 hours of build time, 60 points guaranteed!

As a side note, you actually have time during build season to come up with ideas?

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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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In Boston I was talking with a friend, and finally told about an idea I had after seeing some actual competitions.

Instant ramp for less than 50 bucks (cheapest version) at any store (Walmart, K-Mart, Toys-R-Us, Kay-Bee Toys etc..)

Now that the regular season is over, and I never saw anything like this implemented, maybe someone wants to run with it for the offseason?

It would be legal under costing, and COTS, and weight, but size may be an issue (width mostly - nothing a sawz-all couldn't take care of though..

But would any team actually buy one of these and bolt it on?


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Yeah... that KISS principle is in full effect with this one.
I actually used to have one of those ramps when I was younger, the one pictured above. However, the downside would be the grade of the ramp, somewhere near 30 deg (at 12 high) right? How wide are they and tall? Couldn't be +12 inches high I don't think.
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murphy's law. everyone always comes up with the winning idea too late. including us...to some degree....
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

this year i had a really good idea for build.... it was a hybred, but a little complicated, i built a model out of k'nex, and the kid who did the designing for 1694's bot shot it down...

i had the best k'nex machine for triple play and FF Raising the bar too, all built with knex, i also had one for Aim high.

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note, this was just in the planning stages, i had this thing built by Saturday night of the kickoff.
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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the pics dont work.... [dotdotdot]
I see the pictures just fine, I am using Mozilla Fire Fox 2.0.0.3 for Windows.
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It would be legal under costing, and COTS, and weight, but size may be an issue (width mostly - nothing a sawz-all couldn't take care of though..

But would any team actually buy one of these and bolt it on?
I didn't think of skateboard ramps. That one is only 24" wide, though - it would require very careful driving to get on it without falling. I calculate the slope at just less than 21 degrees.

I was looking at handicap access ramps for a while. But since most of them are rated for somewhere around 600 pounds load, they all weighed too much.
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

Likewise I always come up with good ideas after the game is over. I guess it is because I actually have time to sleep and rest so my brain can think properly. That is just a theory. Also because during the build season I am trying so hard to solve a problem, I fail to see the simplest of solutions even if they are right in front of my face.

I have a neighbor who has one of those ramps and I almost ran over it with my car because they left it in the street. It was on the side and I wondered how much air I would get but still my grandmother wouldn't approve so I drove along...I saw this but failed to remember it was FIRST related.
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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Keep your eye out for a certain "post season" bot, coming to your nearest New England competition. Under $50, 5 hours of build time, 60 points guaranteed!
Amish-bot?

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As a side note, you actually have time during build season to come up with ideas?
Occasionally..(on the nights I take off from attending team meetings) lol


*And if I see a Skateboard ramp at an offseason with a big 228 in varsity letters on it, then I won't bring up who I told my idea about this to in Boston and their affiliation with 228. (psst.. It was Samm) lol (Oh well, too late to not bring it up I guess. )
But... if you do attempt this, I want pics at least!
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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

The "Amish-bot" will have no plastic on it, or metal for that matter... You'll just have to wait and see at Beantown.

BTW, GUS V9.0 will still be there, ready to take on the rest of New England, again. The "Amish-bot" will be a side-show spectacle with plenty of photo opportunities.

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Re: Why do my best robot design ideas always come when the season is almost over?

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murphy's law. everyone always comes up with the winning idea too late. including us...to some degree....
Wait a minute...

That's not murphy's law, but it should get some name...
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p.s. Samm, should really keep her mouth shut...
No no no, you misunderstood me I think... lol I didn't hear about Amish-Bot from Samm. I told her about the bolt-on skateboard ramp idea of mine when we were in Boston for the regional almost too late to implement even back then...

I found out about Amish-Bot from another (digital-type) source.
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