2007 Chairman's Honorable Mentions.

[Pavan Dave]

This thread is a bit late, but what exactly happened to the 2007 Chairmans Honorable Mention award? And does anybody know why it was removed this year? I remember that it the past it was a big part of FIRST and it also helps recognize teams that are doing good in their community... Is this a hint that FIRST is becoming more competitive and changing how FRC works from outreach to great robots?

[Nuttyman54]

I would've liked to hear the honorable mentions, and am curious as to why they were removed, but I don't think that FIRST is necessarily moving away from the outreach aspect. After all, the YouTube contest is about recruitment, and it wasn't the World Champions that got to visit the White House, but the Chairman's et. al winners. (Rightly so, they represent the best aspects of FIRST)

[mateus]

I don't know why they removed it... but all the three Judges Award seemed to be given to good works in Chairman's... just take a look at this:

Judge's Award #1 ("Going above and beyond the call of duty"): 922
Judge's Award #2: 71
Judge's Award #3("Paying FIRST forward"): 1382

these are the three judges award given with the phrase used by woodie to introduce the teams... And seeing what he talks about each team... i can only believe that the judges award in CMP were given to teams who had a good "chairman's work"... just like the Honorable Mentions from past years with the difference that the judges awards won't take you to the next year Championship...

[Pavan Dave]

Originally Posted by mateus

I don't know why they removed it... but all the three Judges Award seemed to be given to good works in Chairman's... just take a look at this:

Judge's Award #1 ("Going above and beyond the call of duty"): 922
Judge's Award #2: 71
Judge's Award #3("Paying FIRST forward"): 1382

these are the three judges award given with the phrase used by woodie to introduce the teams... And seeing what he talks about each team... i can only believe that the judges award in CMP were given to teams who had a good "chairman's work"... just like the Honorable Mentions from past years with the difference that the judges awards won't take you to the next year Championship...

I'm all up for recognizing outreach through a judges award, but the Honorable Mention was great because it actually recognized the team for being one of the elite teams rather than patting them on the back and saying, "good job, keep up the good work." The Honorable mention was (if I am not mistaken) judged by the Chairman's judges which makes them more "qualified" (for a lack of a better term) to judge who did a great job of helping their community etc.

[Rich Ross]

I certainly lament the lack of honorable mentions.

If i could change one thing about the championship this year, it would be to have the honorable mentions remain an integral part of the competition.

I think that first is sending a message that only one team can be awarded for outreach and chairman's qualifications, but at least 12 teams were recognized with gold medals that corresponded to field success. thats not good IMO.

Let's communicate to FIRST that we would like the Honorable Mentions to remain a part of the Championship Event!

[RoboMadi]

I was kinda disappointed not to have the Honorable Mentions this year. I was looking forward to it, as these are the teams we can look up to, and the fact that these teams embodies the message of FIRST in true fashion.
Hopefully, the'll have it back next year. But I would love to see what FIRST has to say about this.

Imad

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Rich Ross

Let's communicate to FIRST that we would like the Honorable Mentions to remain a part of the Championship Event!

My opinion is on the other side. I'd much rather see an actual award (e.g. Judge's Award) than a mere mention.

[Pavan Dave]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

My opinion is on the other side. I'd much rather see an actual award (e.g. Judge's Award) than a mere mention.

But the honorable mention was an award. A "runner-up" award, but an award nonetheless.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

My opinion is on the other side. I'd much rather see an actual award (e.g. Judge's Award) than a mere mention.

And you do get a physical award, its really nice to.

I liked having the Honorable Mention it was nice to know that you were on the right track and to get recognized for your work.

[OZ_341]

Originally Posted by Kyle

And you do get a physical award, its really nice to.

I liked having the Honorable Mention it was nice to know that you were on the right track and to get recognized for your work.

I agree. It is positive feedback at a level just above Regional Chairmans. With so much variation in how the CA is judged on the local level it is difficult to make it through to the Championship or to know how you compare with teams at the Championship once you get there. Winning the Honorable Mention Award twice has given us the confidence of knowing that we are on the right track, as long as we keep improving on what we do.

[Doliver]

Originally Posted by Kyle

And you do get a physical award, its really nice to.

I liked having the Honorable Mention it was nice to know that you were on the right track and to get recognized for your work.

I totally agree with that... and I have to say that, even though we have worked hard to help the community, I find it pretentious to say that the Judges Awards substituted the honorable mentions. Just because we didn't have CHM this year it doesn't mean that the JA were in lieu of them. For me, they are different awards which recognize different things.

I don't intend to say that had there been honorable mentions this year ,my team as well as the other ones, would have or not be mentioned. Let's face it, they are different awards and it's not up to us judge the meaning of the them. We should not compare them either.

[JaneYoung]

As I was leaving the Georgia Dome following the close of the ceremonies, I was approached by two students who had accepted one of the Judge's Awards. They asked what had happened to the Honorable Mentions and what the Judge's Awards meant. They were happy but not sure how to celebrate. I suggested they speak with their mentors and have them ask FIRST for clarification if the mentors could not answer their questions.
Jane

[OZ_341]

The other problem with not giving CHM Awards is that judges will naturally want to encourage strong Regional CA teams, if there is no other way to recognize them.
This could possibly create a situation in which the awards at the Championship go mostly to Regional CA Teams and Rookies.

[Joe Matt]

I heard it was done to prevent hard feelings and not have people discouraged (every year they are on HM...), and the Judges award is for a team that stands out in a way that a current award doesn't apply to.

[mateus]

ouch... it seems that i choosed wrong words to say what i'd like and so i was misunderstood

I didn't mean that the Judges Award represents the same thing that the honorable mentions... i never thought to make a comparison between them...
I was just trying to say that the organization seems to made a swap... don't know why... but they removed the Honorable Mentions and gave the Judges to teams with good work for CA... I'm also not saying that they are right or wrong because of that

And just to reinforce: i'n not comparing the two "awards" and the recognition of them...