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Unread 28-05-2007, 23:00
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Anti virus

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I was wondering what your preference to Anti Virus software is. I currently am running Norton 2007, but when I downloaded Spy Sweeper recently, it found 7 things that Norton ignored. Now I am wondering if Norton really is the best. So if you could tell me what I should get, that would be great! Also, I was thinking AVG, does anyone know of it's dependability?
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Re: Anti virus

Norton is certainly not the best. It's about average. The best anti virus I've found is called Avira AntiVir there are ones that are free for download and then ones that you have to pay for. I have a pdf somewhere of which anti virus are good. I'll update this post with it when I find it.

PDF: http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...e/report13.pdf
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Re: Anti virus

I definitely do not know what the best is, but Norton is not it. I used to have it, and my dad still has it, and it isn't good.

I have AVG Free Edition right now, and it seems to be working well. I haven't had any problems with it so far, so that's a good sign.
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Re: Anti virus

*puke* Norton *puke*

Sorry.

I fix people's computers all the time. The biggest problem is usually a Norton conflict (with something or other), weather it be driver conflicts, service conflicts, or whatever. Norton chokes up computer's resources. (sorry for being harsh)

Now onto the good news.

I'm probably going to get run off the track for this the same way I just talked about Norton, but McAfee doesn't seem to do a bad job. I used to pay for it, but now it comes free with my Comcast internet connection. I have never had a virus/trojan that it hasn't caught (the firewall is great), and it fixes most existing problems with its virus scan. The biggest issue is, again, resource hogging.

So what is the solution? AVG is pretty nice. Haven't noticed any major problems with it... but it is free. Perhaps its just me, but pay services seem to feel more inclined to keeping your computer virus-free if they want you to renew your contract. I haven't done FULL testing with AVG (my whole network runs McAfee, not to mention hardware firewalls), but a few of the labs at the university run AVG, and it seems to work just fine.

So, there you go. My opinion. Sorry Symantec (I can't complain about norton utilities though....)

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Re: Anti virus

AVG.....
Not a lot of system overhead. Free.
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Re: Anti virus

Norton is to anti-sypware as.. McDonald's is to your health.


I use a combination of AVG (for spyware), ZoneAlarm (for firewall), AdAware (for deep, long scans) and Firefox (for internet protection against popups/etc). Really though, nothing can help more than some good common sense, i.e. not downloading things that don't look right (like, what's supposd to be a song but comes up as a .exe), not clicking on pr0n popups, etc.. I load my sister's computer down with so much anti spyware stuff, yet she still gets them from using LimeWire so much and not using common sense while doing it.
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Re: Anti virus

I used to have Norton 2006 loaded on my computer.
In June (last year) the computer started to act up. I took it to Best Buy (still under warranty) and they told me it had a major Trojan and that my hard drive would have to be wiped.
I lost allot of data because of that.
I now use PC Cillin.
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Re: Anti virus

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Perhaps its just me, but pay services seem to feel more inclined to keeping your computer virus-free if they want you to renew your contract.
Aren't you the one who spells Microsoft M$ all the time?

Also, I would expect Spybot to pick up things that Norton doesn't. Norton is anti-virus, Spybot is anti-spyware.

I use AntiVir combined with Adaware.
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Re: Anti virus

If anything use McAfee 8 Enterprise that I get free from school. It does a decent job.
I usually recommend AVG, Spybot, AdAware, and ClamAV.
Recently, I heard about Blink (http://www.eeye.com/html/products/bl...nal/index.html) which is free for a year, and is supposed to do a decent job. I haven't tried it yet though.
Edit: I forgot about NOD32. I've heard alot of good things about it, but never used it. Michelle's comparitives seem to support it too.

For real security though I reccomend a router (built in firewall) and some common sense. Don't go surfing to sketchy sites. Don't go clicking willy-nilly on everything that pops up. READ whatever pops up.
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Re: Anti virus

Um... my dad swears by Microsoft. So, guess what? He went out and bought Microsoft OneCare. Heh... when my computer had spyware on it, then my dad loaded that stupid thing on it without me knowing.
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Re: Anti virus

Bit defender runs great no problems but it takes up a lot of resources.
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USC distributes Trend Micro now. It works fine from what I've experienced with the lab machines I work with.

My mother uses AVG with no complaints. (And if she did have complaints, trust me, I'd know. )
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Re: Anti virus

For all you AVG users out there...

A month or so back, my mcafee expired so I installed and ran AVG and it came up with 0 problems. Now one of the files I have on my computer is a "virus" (all virus software seems to think it's a virus). AVG didn't detect it at all, I ran an updates, rescanned and all that jazz still didn't find it (even tough mcafee had detected it every time I scanned). Then I downloaded and installed Avira AntiVir and it found it along with 3 real viruses. So maybe if I were you I'd rethink using AVG.

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http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.../overview.html

The above link basically shows you the different anti-virus softwares that are most popular, and it displays their performance over the years (a gray-ish color meaning it's below everything, then ratings standard, advanced, advanced+) (it's also a comprehensive form of the PDF [which was only one segment of a year] I posted earlier).

If you looking for a anti virus and willing to pay a pretty penny I would strongly recommend Kaspersky and as I said before if you want to go free, Avira AntiVir is what I'm pushing for.
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Also, I would expect Spybot to pick up things that Norton doesn't. Norton is anti-virus, Spybot is anti-spyware.
For the last year or two, Norton has included an anti-spyware feature. In my experience, it isn't as good as standalone applications, but Symantec certainly doesn't market it that way.
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Re: Anti virus

I always recommend Firefox, AVG, Spybot, AdAware, ClamAV and Thunderbird first, as they are free solutions, and people often hate paying for software/subscriptions. But if they are looking for even more security, and want to pay more, then I'll recommend commercial anti-virus applications (Except Norton and Microsoft Live).

But mostly, I try to teach them common sense. Only use Firefox (or Safari, Opera, or Camino) to browse the Internet, and NEVER use Internet Explorer unless absolutely necessary. Don't use Outlook, ever. Always look at the link in the status bar before you click on it; if you cannot see an address there, be cautious before you click on it. Don't download stuff from 'sketchy' websites. Always scan anything downloaded from the Internet for viruses before you open the file.

If they are looking to purchase a new computer, then I usually recommend that they purchase a Mac Mini. For $600, you can get a computer that just works, is much less at risk of being infected by viruses, and comes with the most amazing "free" software I've ever seen: iLife. While this may not be the best solution for everyone, for a large number of [especially full or partial computer-illiterate] people this will solve almost all of their problems.


(Silly people. They think I recommend Macs so they won't have any computer problems. Little do they know, I recommend them so that I don't ever have to fix their computer ever again. )


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I load my sister's computer down with so much anti spyware stuff, yet she still gets them from using LimeWire so much and not using common sense while doing it.
There's an easy way to fix the problem with computer-illiterate people, LimeWire, and more viruses than you can shake a stick at. Go into their firewall and disable LimeWire from accessing the Internet. Even if they reinstall LimeWire, it'll still be blocked from accessing the Internet.
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