A Sticky Situation.....

[AdamHeard]

Posting anonymously isn't going to spare anyone's feelings... anyone on your team will immediately recognize the story.

Just forget all that stuff, okay? The team exists to work with whatever resources available to build the best robot they can with those resources (and to actively try to increase those resources). There's no sense in worrying over a situation you can not change.

If anything, try to get the two new teams to work together, and spin this into a positive change.

[C7First]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Posting anonymously isn't going to spare anyone's feelings... anyone on your team will immediately recognize the story.

i know i just wanted to be sure....

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Just forget all that stuff, okay? The team exists to work with whatever resources available to build the best robot they can with those resources (and to actively try to increase those resources). There's no sense in worrying over a situation you can not change.

i know and i know we'll do well it was just the situation and the way it was handled.

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

If anything, try to get the two new teams to work together, and spin this into a positive change.

Good idea, no way it is gonna happen

and thanks for reading

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by C7First

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Good idea, no way it is gonna happen

Why not?

There is no way that so much animosity was created by one mentor that two teams would refuse to work together. This isn't about mentors or their power struggles, this is a program for high school students.

If enough kids with level heads decide it's best if the teams help each other (which is true), and the mentors refuse, tell the mentors to grow up and remind them that this program is for students.

[C7First]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Why not?

There is no way that so much animosity was created by one mentor that two teams would refuse to work together. This isn't about mentors or their power struggles, this is a program for high school students.

If enough kids with level heads decide it's best if the teams help each other (which is true), and the mentors refuse, tell the mentors to grow up and remind them that this program is for students.

im not sure it is worth a try but not knowing how they feel right now. it makes it difficult but it is defenatly a great idea

[C7First]

Originally Posted by C7First

im not sure it is worth a try but not knowing how they feel right now. it makes it difficult but it is defenatly a great idea

it also not just the mentors in the struggle some of the students had problems with this mentor too.

[JaneYoung]

FIRST-A-Holic's-Anonymous Mailbox is a forum in CD that was set up to be able to deal with tough questions/situations, I thought. I'm not sure what happened to it or if we still have that available to us.

Edit: this is a response to Adam's post, sorry I didn't include a quote.

[C7First]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

FIRST-aholics-anonymous-mailbox is a forum in CD that was set up to be able to deal with tough questions/situations, I thought. I'm not sure what happened to it or if we still have that available to us.

i didn't know there was even such thing.....

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by C7First

i didn't know there was even such thing.....

Not so sure it has been used in a while, maybe one of the mods could tell us a little bit about it.

[C7First]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

Not so sure it has been used in a while, maybe one of the mods could tell us a little bit about it.

that would be cool

[Madison]

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

FIRST-A-Holic's-Anonymous Mailbox is a forum in CD that was set up to be able to deal with tough questions/situations, I thought. I'm not sure what happened to it or if we still have that available to us.

Edit: this is a response to Adam's post, sorry I didn't include a quote.

This is the link to the FIRST-A-Holics Anonymous forum: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=124

You can create a thread there that will remain hidden until approved by the folks behind the scenes. When your post appears, it will be stripped of your identifying information.

Remember, it's otherwise against forum rules to maintain more than one account per person.

[C7First]

Originally Posted by M. Krass

This is the link to the FIRST-A-Holics Anonymous forum: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=124

You can create a thread there that will remain hidden until approved by the folks behind the scenes. When your post appears, it will be stripped of your identifying information.

Remember, it's otherwise against forum rules to maintain more than one account per person.

i know that is why as soon as this discussion is over i am deleting this profile.

[onefreakykid]

Wow. Let me start off by saying that I am / was a member of the team that C7 is talking about.

1. This (mentor) has been a problem for a couple years now.
2. The mentors who left keys gave this person plenty of time for the administration to do something. But since nothing happened, we moved on.
3. Is it wrong to tell him what we don't like about him? The things he did we more immature than that of which you call us.
4. Mutiny? I would hardly call this a mutiny. Does the fact that we're not returning to this team next year make it a mutiny? We all moved on, i suggest you do the same.
5. At no time did we ever 'recruit' members of the other team.

C7, you know who I am, and you know my feeling on the whole matter. Best we all move on from this stupidity.

[set the record]

First of all none of you know the whole situation in the matter. You are making yourself look foolish by talking about something you know very little, if anything, about.

C7 won't tell you what his father(oops maybe i shouldn't say that) did as a mentor

yes c7 very well could be the mentors son or a good friend of the mentors son.I really wouldn't be shocked if it's the mentor himself so now take everything he said with a grain of salt.

the story is 95 % incomplete but as a mature adult I will not air our dirty laundry
in this thread.You really cant say how to fix the problem if you were not here to see the problems we had.

as of the word "mutiny" we didn't make him walk the plank,but this is the second "mutiny" in 3 years. So is it us or him?

And lastly nobody made anybody do anything they didn't want to do. Yes we have a large chunk of the mentors but we all came to the same conclusion
( TO BE ON A TEAM JUST NOT THIS ONE)

We always hope them nothing but the best but if this keeps going on who will be the immature child in this manner.Just move on and let it go. We did.

and don't worry about they sponsorship.If they loose it, it will because of the mentor not us. They get plenty of money from the school anyways.

[Brandon Martus]

Creating anonymous accounts are a violation of the site rules, no matter what their purpose is. This thread doesn't need to be discussed publically; you should deal with inner-team struggles as a team .. not on an open forum.

[Andy Baker]

Originally Posted by set the record

... as a mature adult I will not air our dirty laundry in this thread.

Let's all use the above situation as an example of what not to do.

It is never wise to air a team's dirty laundry publicly. What ends up is what we all see here. Even with this teams anonymity in tact (well, from most of us), it still gets messy.

Let's learn from this, move on, and hope that these teams to work through this through their own communication channels as needed.

Andy B.