Pledge of Allegiance Changed...

[Bill Gold]

Originally Posted by Pavan

I'm saying that our country has had one major rule that has appealed to many foreigners that later settled here. It was freedom of religion and the government's duty to stay out of it.. Now I'll explain my Hitler analogy. Hitler did not meet the criteria of his 'perfect' race, yet he led them. He made rules but he said "you know what, I'm in charge so I'm exempt" similar to how Christianity is becoming in America. Although Christians settled America, THEY decided that there was going to write and preach separation between church and state. That said, now they (Christians) are pulling an Adolph, saying that our country's roots were this and that, when in all reality they wrote it but think they are exempt. Apologies to everyone Christian who is offended but this is exactly what is going on.

If you write rules, you must FOLLOW them [for any of you thinking about joining Congress one day].

Pavan.

I didn't mean to say that I disagreed with your analogy. I just meant that there are other possible analogies out there that could be used instead of pulling the Hitler card, which as I said, is pretty inflammatory to a fair number of people. You've been doing a good job, just wanted to help out a little

Dan, I'd bet that the vast majority of the objections to abortion / same-sex marriage originated from religion. Neither of us has meaningful data on this, so it's pretty much useless for us to go back and forth about this. If people thought that those things were gross or wrong (non-believers) then quite likely they'd just be fine not doing it themselves, but if their God tells them they shouldn't do it then, usually, they feel as though they need to spread that restriction to everyone else in the world because they think us non-believers are either heathens or just misinformed. That's my point, religious people feel there needs to be legislation / constitutional amendments to impose their God's idea on the rest of us.

I may believe in "nothing," as you said, but it's still offensive to me to have other people force their ideals on me or look down on me for not sharing their beliefs. By caring about this, you haven't tricked me into believing in anything other than my freedom to be free of everyone else's religion, which I have here.

I'm here now, and when I'm dead I'll be dead. I can't do anything after I'm dead, just like I couldn't do anything before I was born, so I better have a good time while I'm here.

Hi Maddie. Long time no see in these threads. Remember those Tigerbolt days?