Appalachian State!!!!

[Cory]

I was at the Stanford-UCLA game, so I didn't get a chance to see this one, but they announced the final score over the stadium PA and everyone went nuts. Nobody could believe it.

Wonder what the over/under is on weeks before Lloyd Carr is fired?

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Originally Posted by Cory

I was at the Stanford-UCLA game, so I didn't get a chance to see this one, but they announced the final score over the stadium PA and everyone went nuts. Nobody could believe it.

Wonder what the over/under is on weeks before Lloyd Carr is fired?

I would call for his termination right now. That is ridiculous. I could have coached that talented Michigan team to a win...

On another note: Notre Dame got it handed to them today! Don't ND and Michigan play? That's going to be a sloppy game, I think.

[Alexa Stott]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah Johnson

On another note: Notre Dame got it handed to them today! Don't ND and Michigan play? That's going to be a sloppy game, I think.

Notre Dame (or "Notre Lame" as they are sometimes referred to) is also grossly overrated.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Cory

I was at the Stanford-UCLA game, so I didn't get a chance to see this one, but they announced the final score over the stadium PA and everyone went nuts. Nobody could believe it.

Wonder what the over/under is on weeks before Lloyd Carr is fired?

Only if he loses to Ohio State.

[xzvrw2]

good thing i am a state fan
or i would be devistated.
henny is a horrible quarterback,
people were wondering what happened to the defence...
i know exactly were it went....
the draft.
hart is decent, hes not the best
like every one says he is.
it made me laugh
when my dad told me that score.
LETS GO STATE!! haha

[Lil' Lavery]

If they fire Lloyd Carr, they are insane. Lloyd Carr didn't make Brandon Minor fumble constantly, or kick it right into the hands of defenders twice. As a whole, Appalachian State may not be as talented as Michigan, but they proved that they had a couple players as fast (actually faster) than Michigan, and lined them up in a spread offense to utilize that speed. And I've seen enough West Virginia games to understand that speed+spread offense=points. And Michigan just didn't play well enough on offense (mainly with Brandon Minor, when Mike Hart came back they improved) to outscore App. State, especially when you factor in the two blocked field goals and two failed conversions.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

This just makes me wonder if Appy State is going to roll right through the D-1AA season. They win again, I think they may end up taking a D-1A spot next year... say, Buffalo. LOL.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah Johnson

This just makes me wonder if Appy State is going to roll right through the D-1AA season. They win again, I think they may end up taking a D-1A spot next year... say, Buffalo. LOL.

Aren't the divisions based on the size of the schools, not the success of the programs?

[Dan Richardson]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Aren't the divisions based on the size of the schools, not the success of the programs?

No, its not like high schools there are different criteria. There are many bigger D1AA schools than some D1A schools

[xzvrw2]

to go from D-II to D-I, yes, it is on size, but D-IAA to D-IA it is about skillz.
yes with a z.
and michigan will not fire a coach. they will not fire car, which is stupid.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Only if he loses to Ohio State.

I think he's gone at the end of the season regardless of what happens.

3 straight losses to OSU. 3 straight bowl game losses. He's been on the hot seat for awhile. His seat is now fiery.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Cory

I think he's gone at the end of the season regardless of what happens.

3 straight losses to OSU. 3 straight bowl game losses. He's been on the hot seat for awhile. His seat is now fiery.

I don't think anyone really knows if he's been on the hot seat, and I don't he has been. It may be getting warmer now, but it shouldn't be hot yet. Michigan was undefeated until their final game of the regular season last year. He's won more than 70% of his games in Michigan, won a national title, and multiple Big 10 titles. Firing him would be a mistake, and they certainly wouldn't find a better coach to replace him.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I don't think anyone really knows if he's been on the hot seat, and I don't he has been. It may be getting warmer now, but it shouldn't be hot yet. Michigan was undefeated until their final game of the regular season last year. He's won more than 70% of his games in Michigan, won a national title, and multiple Big 10 titles. Firing him would be a mistake, and they certainly wouldn't find a better coach to replace him.

The problem with your entire statement was that it was developed by a rational person (yourself).

This is what Joe Blow diehard Michigan fan would say, or more importantly what UM's big time boosters will say when they call up the Athletic Department pissed about losing to ASU.

"We haven't won a national championship in 10 years. Last year was our best shot and Lloyd Carr went and lost to the Buckeyes for the 3rd year in a row. Then we got pasted by USC in the Rose Bowl. The year before we lost to an average Nebraska team, and the year before that, we lost to Texas and the year before that we got our butts whooped by USC again. Now we go and lose to Appalachian State. A Division I-AA team. A team we were favored to beat by a million points. A team who had no business even being on the same field as ours. And we LOST to them. What are you going to do about it?"

That's what's going to happen. It doesn't matter how good of a coach Carr is, or how dumb it would be to fire him. Look at Larry Coker's career win percentage. It didn't help him any with keeping his job (granted Miami had all kinds of problems, but if Carr goes anywhere close to the 7-6 Coker did, they might as well be in the same situation).

[Dan Richardson]

Originally Posted by Cory

The problem with your entire statement was that it was developed by a rational person (yourself).

This is what Joe Blow diehard Michigan fan would say, or more importantly what UM's big time boosters will say when they call up the Athletic Department pissed about losing to ASU.

"We haven't won a national championship in 10 years. Last year was our best shot and Lloyd Carr went and lost to the Buckeyes for the 3rd year in a row. Then we got pasted by USC in the Rose Bowl. The year before we lost to an average Nebraska team, and the year before that, we lost to Texas and the year before that we got our butts whooped by USC again. Now we go and lose to Appalachian State. A Division I-AA team. A team we were favored to beat by a million points. A team who had no business even being on the same field as ours. And we LOST to them. What are you going to do about it?"

That's what's going to happen. It doesn't matter how good of a coach Carr is, or how dumb it would be to fire him. Look at Larry Coker's career win percentage. It didn't help him any with keeping his job (granted Miami had all kinds of problems, but if Carr goes anywhere close to the 7-6 Coker did, they might as well be in the same situation).

Exactly, college football definitely falls into the what have you done for me lately category, coaches can't rely on past success.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Originally Posted by Stud Man Dan

Exactly, college football definitely falls into the what have you done for me lately category, coaches can't rely on past success.

Which is why I'm all for replacing Philip Fulmer at Tennessee. No SEC Championship since 1998, when they won the National Championship. And on top of that, 2005 they had a losing record and lost to VANDERBILT. Who they hadn't lost to for 22 years.