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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

Look in ifi_aliases.h, You will find the variables for the battery.
I hope this helps.

/*
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*---------- Aliases for Battery Voltage bytes --------------------------------------------------------
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Formula to calculate voltage in volts:
* current_voltage = battery_voltage * 0.038 + 0.05;
*/

#define battery_voltage rxdata.rc_main_batt*15.64/256
#define backup_voltage rxdata.rc_backup_batt*15.64/256
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

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Look in ifi_aliases.h, You will find the variables for the battery.
I hope this helps.

/*
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*---------- Aliases for Battery Voltage bytes --------------------------------------------------------
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Formula to calculate voltage in volts:
* current_voltage = battery_voltage * 0.038 + 0.05;
*/

#define battery_voltage rxdata.rc_main_batt*15.64/256
#define backup_voltage rxdata.rc_backup_batt*15.64/256
Thanks!

Also, I'm going to add something. I think for the charger, I might have a manual override so I can force it to charge while off (like just a small switch in the back)
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

You could pretty easily use the CCP ports represented by PWMs 13-16 to output single frequency tones. You'd set it up to output a square wave at the particular frequency you want. You'd have to filter it fairly heavily if you wanted a pure tone, of course. Square waves have harmonics at odd multiples of the fundamental frequency, so if it were me, I'd pick what your high frequency is, make yourself something like a 4th or 6th order low pass filter with a corner frequency at that highest frequency. Then you can put out frequencies down to about 1/2 that highest frequency and still have a pretty pure tone. You'd need to make up a separate amp to drive your speaker, and you'd want it to filter out the DC offset inherent in that initial PWM-style square wave and you'd probably need to create a virtual ground split between your 0V and 12V and various other things as well, of course.
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You could pretty easily use the CCP ports represented by PWMs 13-16 to output single frequency tones. You'd set it up to output a square wave at the particular frequency you want. You'd have to filter it fairly heavily if you wanted a pure tone, of course. Square waves have harmonics at odd multiples of the fundamental frequency, so if it were me, I'd pick what your high frequency is, make yourself something like a 4th or 6th order low pass filter with a corner frequency at that highest frequency. Then you can put out frequencies down to about 1/2 that highest frequency and still have a pretty pure tone. You'd need to make up a separate amp to drive your speaker, and you'd want it to filter out the DC offset inherent in that initial PWM-style square wave and you'd probably need to create a virtual ground split between your 0V and 12V and various other things as well, of course.
Can you please elaborate? Like I've connected my speaker to a this transistor and I have sound, but it's just a steady pulse, like you would expect from a PWM signal. I really need the help with the programming. I'm electrical, not programming, though I've just learned my first lessons with C like creating variables, the evil semicolon; how to compare things using if {} and how to set variables to certain values. That is literally all I know. I even had trouble compiling the code... (due to something going crazy with MPLAB and not saving my user_routines_fast.c... that took about 20 minutes to figure out). Some coding examples or some electrical schematics of what you are talking about will help a lot. I also have the option to use a Homework Basic Stamp boards as like a sound card, but I'd rather not do that because of the power consumption and the price.
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

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Look in ifi_aliases.h, You will find the variables for the battery.
I hope this helps.

/*
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*---------- Aliases for Battery Voltage bytes --------------------------------------------------------
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Formula to calculate voltage in volts:
* current_voltage = battery_voltage * 0.038 + 0.05;
*/

#define battery_voltage rxdata.rc_main_batt*15.64/256
#define backup_voltage rxdata.rc_backup_batt*15.64/256
I've gotten to the part of programming where I'm trying to get my charger working, but obviously there is something wrong with the code.
User_routines_fast.c
Code:
/*** DEFINE USER VARIABLES AND INITIALIZE THEM HERE ***/
int powerrelay;
int tempb;
int tempc;
int tempd;
int pwrofftmout;
int powerout;
int poweroutb;
int volts;
(Skip a lot of the stuff that doesn't matter in this post)
printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n");
volts = battery_voltage*0.038+0.05; /*Should give the correct voltage*/
With my novice programming skills, all this seems good to me, however, when using the printf command (which I'm not sure I'm using it correctly) it says "volts 15865" meaning that it has no value for volts and when I manually convert: 15865*0.038+0.05 = 602.92V which is obviously not correct. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Also, the value 15865 does not change at all. It is constant when I disconnect the charger or when I put a load on the battery, which indicates something else is not working properly.
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

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I've gotten to the part of programming where I'm trying to get my charger working, but obviously there is something wrong with the code.
User_routines_fast.c
Code:
/*** DEFINE USER VARIABLES AND INITIALIZE THEM HERE ***/
int powerrelay;
int tempb;
int tempc;
int tempd;
int pwrofftmout;
int powerout;
int poweroutb;
int volts;
(Skip a lot of the stuff that doesn't matter in this post)
printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n");
volts = battery_voltage*0.038+0.05; /*Should give the correct voltage*/
With my novice programming skills, all this seems good to me, however, when using the printf command (which I'm not sure I'm using it correctly) it says "volts 15865" meaning that it has no value for volts and when I manually convert: 15865*0.038+0.05 = 602.92V which is obviously not correct. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Also, the value 15865 does not change at all. It is constant when I disconnect the charger or when I put a load on the battery, which indicates something else is not working properly.
For your printF your not printing any values.. try it like this
Code:
printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n",volts_variable, battery_voltage_variable);
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For your printF your not printing any values.. try it like this
Code:
printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n",volts_variable, battery_voltage_variable);
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printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n",volts_variable,battery_voltage_variable);
The Build:
Code:
C:\FrcCode2005v2.2\user_routines_fast.c:168:Error [1105] symbol 'volts_variable' has not been defined
C:\FrcCode2005v2.2\user_routines_fast.c:168:Error [1105] symbol 'battery_voltage_variable' has not been defined
C:\FrcCode2005v2.2\user_routines_fast.c:168:Warning [2058] call of function without prototype
Halting build on first failure as requested.
I also tried
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printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n",(int)volts,(int)battery_voltage);
That compiled, but it's still giving me a ridiculously high number, which is now constant at 16025.
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Are you doing the volts equation before printf?
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printf("volts %d\n","battery_voltage %d\n",(int)volts,(int)battery_voltage);
Try making that

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printf("volts %d\n battery_voltage %d\n",(int)volts,(int)battery_voltage);
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

Well, I tried your code and same thing... I then defined battery_voltage in user_routines_fast and it's now updating, but the values are still in the 15 and 16000 range. I totally took out all the multiplication and stuff to get the normal volts and just created values using that equation so now I'm doing stuff like:
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if (battery_voltage < 361)
{
relay02_fwd =  1 (<- this may be wrong, I'm writing this from memory)
}
The problem still remains: Why is my battery voltage appearing so high (like 600 volts)? I can't really see any relation. I may end up just making my own equation tomorrow or something that will allow me to get the voltage correct. Well, now I'm off to bed.

Edit: Just thought of another problem. My charger should stop charging when the value is greater than like 370 or something, but even though it's 16000, the charger remains on. I can connect the charger to a switch with the software and it works, so I'm probably screwing something up with the programming.
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Re: Project Questions about Programming and Electrical

Well, no one has replied in over a week, so I'm going to ask again...
Okay... I've tried to program the controller to read the battery voltage, but it's giving me raw values of over 16,000 (if you go to this post, they're experiencing the same problem). No body answered their question, and I posted there yesterday and also got no answer. Please please, any ideas are greatly appreciated, otherwise this thing will overcharge as it did last time.
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