2008 Regional Registration Progress

[Mark McLeod]

1280 teams are registered. Less than thirty to go to match last year's total.
Teams don't seem to show up until they've been accepted into their first Regional, so there may be a bunch of teams sitting on some wait list for one of the many full Regionals. We have a couple here. Anyone else know of any teams that show up as registered, but didn't make it on to any published Regional list yet?

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Hi Karthik,

I did take some liberties in the interest of simplifying my earlier explanation.
I wasn't referring to the generic "wait list" term we see on TIMS. When we click that, TIMS lists us as payment pending anyway. It's that sub-division I'm referring to.

Sorry about mangling the example of Hawaii and the Pending count. I believe it proceeds that way, but the general public doesn't get to see the count going up and down after Open Capacity is reached.

After Open Capacity is reached and the Pending count goes to zero, FIRST calls everything not on the Team List the "wait list," however, it is my understanding that FIRST's wait list is just a common name for the paid list and the payment pending list. I bet they both still individually exist internally.
Really, just a first level division where other attributes may come into play for final team selection, as Kim referred to. I bet any pending team that pays moves to a higher spot on the wait list.

It seems reasonable for FIRST to give preference to paid entrants (or even partially paid entry fees) given how hard it is for many teams to raise the necessary cash. Just looking at last year's registration I saw a lot of teams signing up for events they didn't intend or couldn't afford to go to. I assume they were backup regionals or last minute maneuvering. Some must have been based on the hope that fundraising would go well.
I don't know what the incidence is of teams signing up and just not carrying through with payment, but awarding a spot to an unpaid team would risk wasting a slot and denying another team who could pay for it.

Anyone aware of any case of FIRST refunding payment, because a paid team didn't make it off the wait list?

[Mike Betts]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

Anyone else know of any teams that show up as registered, but didn't make it on to any published Regional list yet?

Mark,

As of 3:30 PM EST today, there are 33 teams wait listed for a regional but not signed up for any regional yet.

Mike

[Richard Wallace]

As of this afternoon there are 1286 registered FRC teams shown on the FIRST site.

I assume Mike's 33 team figure above is accurate although I don't know its source, so the total of registered teams is 1319, a bit ahead of last year's final total. So any increase from here on is year-over-year growth.

405 total registration slots are shown as available, so overall registration is at 77% of published capacity.

Seventeen regionals are now at their published capacity: BAE Granite State, Midwest, Finger Lakes, Greater Kansas City, NASA VCU, Boilermaker, Detroit, Florida, Peachtree, Silicon Valley, Oklahoma City, Boston, Great Lakes, Hawaii, Minnesota, Philadelphia, and SBPLI Long Island. The 33 teams that Mike reported above are waitlisted for one of these "filled" regionals as their first regional. An unknown number of teams are waitlisted for one of these as a second regional. And six other regionals appear likely to reach their published capacity soon, because they have more teams pending than open spots.

Adding total registrations for all regionals and subtracting 1286 leaves 87 teams that are now confirmed for a second regional, and there are 203 teams shown as pending for a second regional. Total second regional participation is hard to predict now because of the unknown number of waitlisted teams.

Regional-by-regional and week-by-week figures follow:

Regional / Attending / Pending / Open

BAE Granite State / 42 / 0 / 0 
Midwest Chicago / 38 / 0 / 0 
New Jersey / 50 / 15 / 3 
Oregon / 30 / 14 / 24 
St. Louis / 30 / 17 / 8 
Week 1: / 190 / 46 / 35 / 84% full

Arizona / 37 / 1 / 17 
Finger Lakes / 34 / 0 / 0 
Greater Kansas City / 54 / 0 / 0 
NASA/VCU Richmond / 54 / 0 
San Diego / 29 / 10 / 9 
Week 2: / 208 / 11 / 26 / 89% full

Boilermaker / 32 / 0 / 0 
Brazil / 2 / 0 / 28 
Chesapeake / 39 / 11 / 15 
Connecticut / 36 / 9 / 34 
Detroit / 32 / 0 / 0 
Florida / 54 / 0 / 0 
Peachtree / 37 / 0 / 0 
Pittsburgh / 12 / 16 / 19 
Silicon Valley / 40 / 0 / 0 
Wisconsin / 47 / 8 / 7 
Week 3: / 331 / 44 / 103 / 76% full

Buckeye / 23 / 5 / 27 
Lone Star / 25 / 4 / 29 
Los Angeles / 35 / 8 / 7 
Microsoft Seattle / 22 / 2 / 10 
Oklahoma City / 37 / 0 / 0 
Davis/Sacramento / 19 / 10 / 15 
Waterloo / 11 / 4 / 15 
West Michigan / 27 / 12 / 17 
Israel / 4 / 0 / 38 
Week 4: / 203 / 46 / 158 / 56% full

Bayou / 32 / 2 / 22 
Boston / 45 / 0 / 0 
Colorado / 32 / 4 / 6 
Great Lakes / 54 / 0 / 0 
Greater Toronto / 42 / 8 / 12 
Hawaii / 29 / 5 / 0 
Las Vegas / 23 / 9 / 18 
Minnesota / 54 / 0 / 0 
Palmetto / 20 / 19 / 11 
Philadelphia / 36 / 0 / 0 
SBPLI Long Island / 34 / 0 / 0 
Week 5: / 401 / 47 / 69 / 72% full

New York City / 40 / 9 / 14 / 74% full