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Re: Contact Area and its Relation to Friction?

Grippy non-linear materials like natural rubber, when on relatively smooth surfaces, can have a higher effective coefficient of friction at lower pressures--so for a fixed robot weight, larger contact patches can give higher friction becuase the rubber of the contact patch is under less pressure.

For an experiment showing the non-linear coefficient of friction of rubber (higher coefficient with lower load on the interface) see http://www.tuftl.tufts.edu/files/asu..._Testing.2.doc particularly graph 1 and graph 3. See also http://www.robotbooks.com/robot-materials.htm toward the bottom of the page, where you find the statement:

"The confusion here comes from the fact that rubber has a very unusual property. The more lightly it is loaded, the higher its apparent coefficient of friction."

Of course carpet can change everything, so you need to experiment for yourself.
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Re: Contact Area and its Relation to Friction?

So... the consensus is that contact area has little or nothing to do with friction? But it does?

Ok... i'll go get empirical data sometime...

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