Go to Post I guess this means we have to work on becoming super-flexible and always be ready for our close-ups at robotics from now on? - Beth Sweet [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Programming
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-12-2007, 13:02
neutrino15's Avatar
neutrino15 neutrino15 is offline
plɹoʍ ollǝɥ
AKA: Jordan Perr
FRC #0694 (Stuypulse)
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: New York City
Posts: 162
neutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really nice
Re: user_routines_fast

Ahh, I understand.. So it would be completely necessary to use interrupt hardware timers here then! Also, what is the point of putting auton code in a fast loop? I mean, if you only get data every 26ms, what would you do in between that? (besides run some really smooth PID, i guess)
Thanks for clarifying that though!
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-12-2007, 23:43
Alan Anderson's Avatar
Alan Anderson Alan Anderson is offline
Software Architect
FRC #0045 (TechnoKats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Posts: 9,113
Alan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond reputeAlan Anderson has a reputation beyond repute
Re: user_routines_fast

Quote:
Originally Posted by neutrino15 View Post
...what is the point of putting auton code in a fast loop? I mean, if you only get data every 26ms,...
While in autonomous mode, the "data" you get is irrelevant. It is forced by the system to indicate all joysticks at neutral, and all switches open.

The point is so you can do whatever you want, however quickly you want, without being restricted to a 38 Hz cadence.
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-12-2007, 10:15
neutrino15's Avatar
neutrino15 neutrino15 is offline
plɹoʍ ollǝɥ
AKA: Jordan Perr
FRC #0694 (Stuypulse)
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: New York City
Posts: 162
neutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really niceneutrino15 is just really nice
Re: user_routines_fast

Oh, wait.. which function processes the local data?
Process_Data_From_Local_OI()
would make sense.. Ok, so you HAVE sensor data during the fast loop, just not input from the operator interface. That makes more sense!

Thanks!
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-12-2007, 10:43
Kevin Sevcik's Avatar
Kevin Sevcik Kevin Sevcik is offline
(Insert witty comment here)
FRC #0057 (The Leopards)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1998
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,673
Kevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Kevin Sevcik Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin Sevcik
Re: user_routines_fast

Erm. To the point in the original question: autonomous mode is in User_Routines_Fast mostly just because that's how IFI has structured it. You could put it elsewhere and it would work just fine. But since any fast loop functions you might be calling would probably be defined in User_Routines_Fast, and since you'd probably need those in the fast part of your autonomous loop, it's easiest to put it there.

The basic flow of execution means that whenever the autonomous mode bit is set, you get kicked out of the tele-op loop and shunted into a very very similar autonomous mode loop. Really, you should think of the autonomous code as being exactly the same as your normal code, except you're not getting any valid input from the OI. But note that this does NOT mean that you don't need to wait for new rxdata. rxdata and txdata come from the master processor. Yes, the rxdata has the joystick data from the OI bundled up in it, but it has some other stuff from the master processor besides. Like the disable/enable bit and the autonomous/tele-op bit. More importantly, you HAVE to send the txdata back to the master processor shortly after it sends you an rxdata, or else the watchdog timer will time out and you'll get the dreaded red code light of death. Plus, txdata contains the PWM output values for the 12 PWMs that the user processor doesn't control, so not sending it would mean those 12 PWMs wouldn't do anything.

So, in summary, the autonomous loop is where it is for convenience, and waiting for rxdata is vital in ANY loop you might be in on an IFI controller.
__________________
The difficult we do today; the impossible we do tomorrow. Miracles by appointment only.

Lone Star Regional Troubleshooter
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
timers in user_routines_fast stephenthe1 Programming 2 17-02-2006 12:35
what is user_routines_fast.c? sjung9442 Programming 2 26-01-2006 21:13
Speed of user_routines_fast.c JoeFryman Programming 2 20-02-2005 01:09
Autonomous weirdness in user_routines_fast.c Roland Programming 6 30-03-2004 11:36
Where is user_routines_fast()? SeanCassidy Programming 3 25-01-2004 16:14


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 00:18.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi